Re: Apache problem with dial-up connection

On 23 Jun 2003 14:55:29 -0700, The Other Guy responded to a post from
montagna@pvpc.org (ENP) who wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:

>I'm trying to install Apache server on my system at home (windows 98)
>and to test my scripts. I have a dial up connection and the server
>just won't work. Any ideas as to what the problem is? I thought you
>didn't even have to be connected to the internet to test Php scripts
>using Apache? Please help with any ideas or links to answer this
>question. thanks

You really haven't given us enough info to help solve your problem.

Having a dial-up really makes no difference *per se* than if you had
any other type of connection.

You do not have to be connected to the Internet to start Apache, and
it can be used as such to just test scripts.

Apache runs on WIN98 just fine (more or less) -- I have a set up of
Apache, Perl, PHP, MySQL on that system just for web development and
testing.

Which version of Apache?

Which version of PHP?

What does your Apache error logs tell you when you try to start?

What behaviour takes place when you go to start it?

Was it working before (say, prior to installing PHP, if that is the
case)?

Have you reviewed the documentation for help?
http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/

Regards,
TOG

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The Other Guy wrote:
> On 23 Jun 2003 14:55:29 -0700, The Other Guy responded to a post from
> montagna@pvpc.org (ENP) who wrote in
> comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:
>
>>I'm trying to install Apache server on my system at home (windows 98)
>>and to test my scripts. I have a dial up connection and the server
>>just won't work. Any ideas as to what the problem is? I thought you
>>didn't even have to be connected to the internet to test Php scripts
>>using Apache? Please help with any ideas or links to answer this
>>question. thanks
>
> You really haven't given us enough info to help solve your problem.
>
> Having a dial-up really makes no difference *per se* than if you had
> any other type of connection.
>
> You do not have to be connected to the Internet to start Apache, and
> it can be used as such to just test scripts.
>
> Apache runs on WIN98 just fine (more or less) -- I have a set up of
> Apache, Perl, PHP, MySQL on that system just for web development and
> testing.
>
> Which version of Apache?
>
> Which version of PHP?
>
> What does your Apache error logs tell you when you try to start?
>
> What behaviour takes place when you go to start it?
>
> Was it working before (say, prior to installing PHP, if that is the
> case)?
>
> Have you reviewed the documentation for help?
> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/
>
> Regards,
> TOG



Sorry, I'm new to apache and php. I'll try and answer this the best I
can:

Which version of Apache? 2.0.45win32
>
> Which version of PHP? 4.3.2RC4 win32--but it's not installed yet, I
stopped when I couldn't get apache started (couldn't view the
test/confirmation page)
>
> What does your Apache error logs tell you when you try to start?
there is a message about something to do with the child/parent. I'm
sorry but I'm not at home to say exactly
>
> What behaviour takes place when you go to start it? when I start up
the Apache service monitor my only options are to click "ok" or "exit"
In other words it won't let me start it.
>
> Was it working before (say, prior to installing PHP, if that is the
> case)?
Nope--not installed

What's bugging me is that when I installed it on my friends laptop
(win98, same apache version), it installed without a hitch. She has a
cable modem running through a router and we had no problems. I typed
the computer name into the browser and bang--test/confirmation page.
I've tried also using "localhost" and "127.0.0.1" on my computer but
that didn't work either. Sorry again about not having the error log
info but there was only the one entry. Do I have to be connected to the
internet when installing it initially? Maybe I have it configured to
the wrong port? How do I determine which port to set the config file to
if that is the case? I'm just firing off the top of my head here so
anything you can throw on would be great...

thanks

ENP

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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 16:58:04 +0200, The Other Guy responded to a post
from "ENP" <dmontagna.news.invalid@web2news.net> who wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:

>The Other Guy wrote:
>> On 23 Jun 2003 14:55:29 -0700, The Other Guy responded to a post from
>> montagna@pvpc.org (ENP) who wrote in
>> comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:
>>
>>>I'm trying to install Apache server on my system at home (windows 98)
>>>and to test my scripts. I have a dial up connection and the server
>>>just won't work. Any ideas as to what the problem is? I thought you
>>>didn't even have to be connected to the internet to test Php scripts
>>>using Apache? Please help with any ideas or links to answer this
>>>question. thanks
>>
>> You really haven't given us enough info to help solve your problem.
>>
>> Having a dial-up really makes no difference *per se* than if you had
>> any other type of connection.
>>
>> You do not have to be connected to the Internet to start Apache, and
>> it can be used as such to just test scripts.
>>
>> Apache runs on WIN98 just fine (more or less) -- I have a set up of
>> Apache, Perl, PHP, MySQL on that system just for web development and
>> testing.
>>
>> Which version of Apache?
>>
>> Which version of PHP?
>>
>> What does your Apache error logs tell you when you try to start?
>>
>> What behaviour takes place when you go to start it?
>>
>> Was it working before (say, prior to installing PHP, if that is the
>> case)?
>>
>> Have you reviewed the documentation for help?
>> http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/
>>
>> Regards,
>> TOG
>
>
>
>Sorry, I'm new to apache and php. I'll try and answer this the best I
>can:
>
>Which version of Apache? 2.0.45win32
>>
>> Which version of PHP? 4.3.2RC4 win32--but it's not installed yet, I
>stopped when I couldn't get apache started (couldn't view the
>test/confirmation page)
>>
>> What does your Apache error logs tell you when you try to start?
>there is a message about something to do with the child/parent. I'm
>sorry but I'm not at home to say exactly
>>
>> What behaviour takes place when you go to start it? when I start up
>the Apache service monitor my only options are to click "ok" or "exit"
>In other words it won't let me start it.
>>
>> Was it working before (say, prior to installing PHP, if that is the
>> case)?
>Nope--not installed
>
>What's bugging me is that when I installed it on my friends laptop
>(win98, same apache version), it installed without a hitch. She has a
>cable modem running through a router and we had no problems. I typed
>the computer name into the browser and bang--test/confirmation page.
>I've tried also using "localhost" and "127.0.0.1" on my computer but
>that didn't work either. Sorry again about not having the error log
>info but there was only the one entry. Do I have to be connected to the
>internet when installing it initially? Maybe I have it configured to
>the wrong port? How do I determine which port to set the config file to
>if that is the case? I'm just firing off the top of my head here so
>anything you can throw on would be great...
>
>thanks
>
>ENP

Hi ENP,

From your reply, I get the impression that you are trying to start it
as a service (the little Apache icon in the Systems Tray -- the
"Monitor Apache Servers" feature). This will not work in WIN98 --
basically, Apache only works as a console in WIN98.

Try going to Start --> Program --> Apache HTTP... --> Control Apache
Server --> Start (sometimes there is the option "Start as Console",
but I don't think there is in 2.0.45 for WIN98, just earlier 2.x
versions).

What happens in WIN98 is that it opens a DOS window that just sits
there, blank. You might think nothing is happening, but it has
started. Simply minimize it to the Task Bar and voila -- test your
pages.

If you see errors run quickly by and the console window automatically
close on start-up, there is a problem that we will have to pursue. If
there is a problem, check the error log to see what it says -- it
should give you some hint as to where to start looking for the
problem.

When going to install PHP, you might wish to review a how-to I posted
a couple of months ago here, now available at
http://www.apachelounge.com/article.php?sid=9 (written for W2K but I
comment on WIN98, as well; it is basically the same 'cept for the
install directories).

Let us know how it goes.

Good luck,
TOG

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