New to Apache

Yes, I am new to this Apache and from what I can see from all these
questions is maybe I shouldn't do it. I have downloaded and installed
the programme on Win XP and a little icon tells me all Apache services
are running. But what do I do now? Where is it running? Can I send web
pages to it that I am writing? I have loked in the Apache folder and
there is nothing there that seems to be a proper control panel, you
know, like Windows is. I have tried to read information about the
system on the net but it seems very technical and totally confusing. I
even found one article that said " don't send us questions that are
not technical and make sure you spell everythinmg correctly"! Well,
what is that all about? I thought this Apache thing might help display
the web pages I write without me having to publish them to the web but
maybe I should do this and not bother. It all seems to difficult. If
people can't come up with a simple system then don't bother.

On 13 Sep 2007, Phil <phil-d-smith@lineone.net> wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:

> Yes, I am new to this Apache and from what I can see from all
> these questions is maybe I shouldn't do it. I have downloaded and
> installed the programme on Win XP and a little icon tells me all
> Apache services are running. But what do I do now? Where is it
> running? Can I send web pages to it that I am writing? I have
> loked in the Apache folder and there is nothing there that seems
> to be a proper control panel, you know, like Windows is. I have
> tried to read information about the system on the net but it seems
> very technical and totally confusing. I even found one article
> that said " don't send us questions that are not technical and
> make sure you spell everythinmg correctly"! Well, what is that all
> about? I thought this Apache thing might help display the web
> pages I write without me having to publish them to the web but
> maybe I should do this and not bother. It all seems to difficult.
> If people can't come up with a simple system then don't bother.

Sound like you're ready to give up without trying very hard. If you're
that easily discouraged, maybe you should bail out now. Apache has a
learning curve, and it would take you a little time to get a handle on
it. What you get in return is a very stable, industrial-strength
product that has been in development for over a decade and has a huge
user base.

Apache isn't a pointy-clicky program like most Windows programs. It's
usually set up to operate as a service whenever you start the OS,
although that can be changed. You configure apache by editing the file
HTTPD.CONF. In order for changes to take effect, you have to stop and
restart the server. If your server is properly set up and running, you
should be able to drop your html documents into the htdocs directory
and then call them up in your browser. If you just want to look at them
locally, you can use the address <http://localhost/mypagename.html>,
assuming that you don't have a firewall blocking the server's port
(port 80 by default).

If you have questions about apache, you need to look through the
documentation at <http://httpd.apache.org/docs/>, even if you don't
understand it all, so you will know what questions to ask.

On Sep 14, 12:00 am, Nil <rednoise+n...@REMOVETHIScomcast.net> wrote:
> On 13 Sep 2007, Phil <phil-d-sm...@lineone.net> wrote in
> comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:
>
> > Yes, I am new to this Apache and from what I can see from all
> > these questions is maybe I shouldn't do it. I have downloaded and
> > installed the programme on Win XP and a little icon tells me all
> > Apache services are running. But what do I do now? Where is it
> > running? Can I send web pages to it that I am writing? I have
> > loked in the Apache folder and there is nothing there that seems
> > to be a proper control panel, you know, like Windows is. I have
> > tried to read information about the system on the net but it seems
> > very technical and totally confusing. I even found one article
> > that said " don't send us questions that are not technical and
> > make sure you spell everythinmg correctly"! Well, what is that all
> > about? I thought this Apache thing might help display the web
> > pages I write without me having to publish them to the web but
> > maybe I should do this and not bother. It all seems to difficult.
> > If people can't come up with a simple system then don't bother.
>
> Sound like you're ready to give up without trying very hard. If you're
> that easily discouraged, maybe you should bail out now. Apache has a
> learning curve, and it would take you a little time to get a handle on
> it. What you get in return is a very stable, industrial-strength
> product that has been in development for over a decade and has a huge
> user base.
>
> Apache isn't a pointy-clicky program like most Windows programs. It's
> usually set up to operate as a service whenever you start the OS,
> although that can be changed. You configure apache by editing the file
> HTTPD.CONF. In order for changes to take effect, you have to stop and
> restart the server. If your server is properly set up and running, you
> should be able to drop your html documents into the htdocs directory
> and then call them up in your browser. If you just want to look at them
> locally, you can use the address <http://localhost/mypagename.html>,
> assuming that you don't have a firewall blocking the server's port
> (port 80 by default).
>
> If you have questions about apache, you need to look through the
> documentation at <http://httpd.apache.org/docs/>, even if you don't
> understand it all, so you will know what questions to ask.

Thank you very much for the info - I was expecting something to look
rather like windows. After all, if windows can look like windows why
can't anything else look like windows?? I will try what you suggest
before giving up.

On 14 Sep 2007, Phil <phil-d-smith@lineone.net> wrote in
comp.infosystems.www.servers.ms-windows:

> Thank you very much for the info - I was expecting something to
> look rather like windows. After all, if windows can look like
> windows why can't anything else look like windows?? I will try
> what you suggest before giving up.

Well, Windows is an operating system. Apache is a service that serves
web pages - once it's set up, there's little need for a GUI interface.
And it was originally a unix server program, and that's generally how
those were configured in those days (and still), via the editing of
configuration files with a text editor. Apache has been ported to MS
Windows, but it is operated in much the same way as it has always been

There are GUI interfaces to HTTPD.CONF, such as:

http://www.apache-gui.com/apache-windows.html

A google search reveals others.

I'm new to Apache also and I am finding it to be very difficult as well. I
am having a problem with the ServerName, the book I am using is telling me
to add a valid domain name or IP Address to the ServerName line and then go
to a webpage and type in my IP address, but when I add my domain name or IP
Address I just get a googled page with my IP Address when I am suppose to be
getting my default homepage. I also get a "line error on line 213" message
Does anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks,
Chris


"Phil" <phil-d-smith@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, I am new to this Apache and from what I can see from all these
> questions is maybe I shouldn't do it. I have downloaded and installed
> the programme on Win XP and a little icon tells me all Apache services
> are running. But what do I do now? Where is it running? Can I send web
> pages to it that I am writing? I have loked in the Apache folder and
> there is nothing there that seems to be a proper control panel, you
> know, like Windows is. I have tried to read information about the
> system on the net but it seems very technical and totally confusing. I
> even found one article that said " don't send us questions that are
> not technical and make sure you spell everythinmg correctly"! Well,
> what is that all about? I thought this Apache thing might help display
> the web pages I write without me having to publish them to the web but
> maybe I should do this and not bother. It all seems to difficult. If
> people can't come up with a simple system then don't bother.
>