Re: [Snort-users] Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released

Dear all:

Just a quick clarification -- I don't have anything to do with either
product -- in fact about 30 minutes ago my snort box bare-metaled itself
quite neatly so im out of the snort business for a day or 2 -- I didn't
comment either way on either product, and in fact in contacted both
vendors (before the box blew up) to learn a bit more about their
products. And both were kind enough to contct me back (thanks guys)

Personally -- I don't mind seeing notices of upgrades or new featuers,
but I guess if I had an opinion it would be to not post sale
notifications / promotions on this type of list -- prehaps a parallel
list for that sort of thing

Anyway - -I think the kitty is up to a total of .06USD at the moment

Hope you all have a GREAT night!!

TIM


Timothy A. Holmes
IT Manager / Network Admin / Web Master / Computer Teacher

Medina Christian Academy
A Higher Standard...

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: snort-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net
> [mailto:snort-users-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] On Behalf
> Of Administration
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 8:09 PM
> To: Eric Hines
> Cc: snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Aanval Series 2 v2.3 Just Released
>
>
> Tim / Group,
>
> I/we are truly sorry you feel ill of our postings to the
> Snort Users Group. Seeing as you are a competitor in the
> market, we are not at all surprised, however we are not in
> the market to make enemies with petty or snide replies/comments.
>
> Just a few facts;
>
> A quick search of the newsgroup shows "Applied Watch" in
> approximately 99 postings, and "Aanval" in approximately 91
> postings.
> I don't see any clear advantage or abuse of the group here.
>
> Aanval is also in the tag-line of several posters who are
> resellers of the product, which accounts for roughly 75% of
> those postings containing our product name.
>
> administration@remoteassessment.com posted 23 times dating
> back to spring of 2004.
> eric.hines@appliedwatch posted 78 times since spring of 2004.
>
> Our postings to the forum have been rather moderate in our opinion,
> 15 for 2006, 4 for 2005 and 4 for 2004.
>
> Many users of snort first find information regarding
> consoles, interfaces, appliances and other snort solutions
> (Free or commercial) through the use of the Snort Users
> Group. Regardless if the product is clearly indicated in the
> subject line, or hidden in a tag line we believe it serves
> the same purpose.
>
> We've just received several emails from list members/clients
> with an opposing view, who indicate they have an interest in
> seeing information on existing products, improvements, etc
> through the snort group for all vendors. We agree with your
> comments on not wishing the group to become a commercial
> highway, however this clearly isn't happening since Aanval
> was introduced (3 years ago).
>
> To be honest, if the Applied Watch Dashboard is updated or
> enhanced with new features, I am sure the majority of snort
> users would love to hear about it. If not, they do as I do
> and delete irrelevant topics as I almost did this one.
>
> And my .02 makes .04
>
> ./Loyal
>
> On Nov 2, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Eric Hines wrote:
>
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> > OK I'm so sick of these Remote Assessment commercials to
> this list and
> > can't bite my tongue anymore regarding their blatant use of
> this list
> > for posting coupons and holiday specials.
> >
> > Why is Remote Assessment allowed to send coupons and
> pricing specials
> > (like the Halloween special on 10/31) to this list as well
> as product
> > announcements? Where does this stop?
> >
> > Yes, and before some of you throw it back to us, Applied Watch has
> > /mistakenly/ did a REPLY-ALL to the snort-users list in the
> past when
> > sending an email to someone but never blatantly emailed pricing
> > specials like we saw earlier this week and now this one from Remote
> > Assessment.
> >
> > I understand that Aanval is offered as a restricted free
> version, but
> > if the company sells it as a product, I don't see why Remote
> > Assessment should be allowed to announce to this list new product
> > releases. If this is the case, than Applied Watch and all the other
> > Snort integrators out there should be able to assume the
> same posture.
> >
> > If the Snort management product is completely free -- a true open
> > source product and is not sold or offered as a commercial solution,
> > then I think they should have the right to announce to this list.
> > However, products such as Aanval and ActiveWorx shouldn't
> (I've seen
> > Jeff Dell do the same thing in the past).
> >
> > If this is the case, Applied Watch's Dashboard is free so
> therefore we
> > should be allowed the same rights to using this list as a marketing
> > and sales vehicle that these other companies are. I have no
> interest
> > in posting commercials for Applied Watch to this list, so a
> line needs
> > to be drawn in the sand and I think its only fair that
> announcements
> > to this list for Snort products be limited to strictly free
> solutions
> > that have no commercial version.
> >
> > There's my 2 cents.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Eric Hines, GCIA, CISSP
> > CEO, President
> > Applied Watch Technologies, LLC
> > 1095 Pingree Road
> > Suite 221
> > Crystal Lake, IL 60014
> > Toll Free: (877) 262-7593
> > Fax: (847) 854-5106
> > Cell: (847) 456-6785
> > Web: www.appliedwatch.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Administration wrote:
> >> All; For Immediate Release
> >>
> >> Aanval Series 2 v2.3 is now available for download. Full Release
> >> Notes Below.
> >> Download: http://www.aanval.com/?op=pub_downloads
> >>
> >> UPGRADE: You may manually upgrade or use your consoles automatic
> >> upgrade feature. See Aanval.com Documentation for details.
> >> --
> >>
> >> Aanval Series 2 Product Screenshots
> >> http://www.aanval.com/?op=pub_screenshotAlley
> >>
> >> Aanval Series 2 Product Details
> >> http://www.aanval.com/?op=pub_products
> >>
> >> Aanval Website
> >> http://www.aanval.com/
> >>
> >> --
> >> Series 2 v2.3 Release Details
> >> --
> >> BUILD: 20301
> >> * Significant Interface Upgrades
> >> * Memory and Performance Enhancements
> >> * New Version Banner when Updates are Available
> >> * Syslog Now Reads from Text Log Files (Syslog Source Files) in
> >> Addition to idsSyslog.pl
> >> * Removed Insignificant Error Messages
> >> * Snort Management Module Display Performance Increased
> >> * Added Sensor Color Option (Snort & Syslog Sensor
> Configuration) for
> >> Live Monitor Views and Event Displays
> >> * Syslog Post Filter SIP/DIP Translation Bug Fixed
> >> * AI Apache Log Error Bug Fixed
> >> * Major CSS Preparation & Integration
> >> * Removed DHTML/CSS Navigation Menu (Browser Performance / Display
> >> Speed Issues)
> >> * Console Side SMT Updates to Improve Reliability
> >> * Temporarily Removed Event SIP/DIP Marking Displays
> >> * Email Sending Removed from Free Limited Version
> >> * Total Event Maximum of 10,000 has Returned for Free
> Limited Version
> >> * Various Minor Bugs Fixed
> >> * And more...
> >>
> >> Full Release Notes: http://www.aanval.com/?op=pub_releaseNotes
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Visit Aanval.com's secure online purchase system to view current
> >> pricing or purchase licenses now.
> >> https://www.aanval.com/purchase/
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Support
> >> - Aanval support is available to all; updated pricing is available
> >> online: https://www.aanval.com/purchase/
> >> - Remember: Free support is first come, first serve - Commercial
> >> support is recommended
> >> - Support may be purchase at the time of need for the individual
> >> issue - Call toll free: 888.569.2186 x3
> >>
> >> Product Information
> >> - Aanval Online Tour: http://www.aanval.com/tour/
> >> - Aanval Online Demo: http://www.aanval.com/demo/
> >>
> >> ? Need more licenses for a larger deployment? We have additional
> >> specials and incentives. Contact us today.
> >> ! Financial, Educational and Government discounting is available!
> >> Contact us today.
> >>
> >> Visit the Aanval.com website, take the tour, view the demo and see
> >> how Aanval can help protect your organization.
> >>
> >> ---
> >> Aanval
> >> 888.569.2186 (Toll Free)
> >> http://www.aanval.com/
> >>
> >> * This email address is not intended for replies - please contact
> >> sales@aanval.com or administration@aanval.com
> >>
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