Re: [Snort-users] streaming media detection

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Joel Esler
 
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You know, I've noticed that the frag processor picks that up sometimes.

Since it is streaming, packets tend to get fragmented somewhere...

J


On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 15:34 -0500, Seth Art wrote:

> I am also interested in detecting streaming audio into our network.=20
> Its been eating up a ton of our bandwidth. I searched the bleeding
> signatures and it doesnt look like there are any rules yet that look
> for streaming http traffic. Has anyone played with this yet? Is
> there any other way to flag this stuff besides by retroactivily
> finding IP address subnets?
>=20
> -Seth
>=20
> On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 05:27:12 -0800 (PST), Jose Maria Lopez
> <jkerouac@bgsec.com> wrote:
> > El mi=C3=A9, 26 de 01 de 2005 a las 05:22, Paul Aviles escribi=C3=B3:
> > > Is there a way to detect people streaming media or listening to music=

? With most of them using port 80 I am curious as to what approach to use.
> > >
> > > Also, is there a way to send an email upon certain alerts?
> > >
> > > Thanks

> >=20
> > You can look in the bleeding-edge rules to see if there are some
> > rules to detect this kind of traffic. If you want just to stop
> > this kind of traffic people use to do it using ACLs with Squid
> > or blocking the IPs this programs connect to.
> >=20
> > About sending emails with certain alerts, I think OpenAanval
> > can do that.
> >=20
> > Regards.
> >=20
> > --
> > Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez
> > Director Tecnico de bgSEC
> > jkerouac@bgsec.com
> > bgSEC Seguridad y Consultoria de Sistemas Informaticos
> > http://www.bgsec.com
> > ESPA=C3=91A
> >=20
> > The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live=

,
> > mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,
> > the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, bur=

n
> > like fabulous yellow Roman candles.
> > -- Jack Kerouac, "On the Road"
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You know, I've noticed that the frag processor picks that up sometimes.<BR>
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Since it is streaming, packets tend to get fragmented somewhere...<BR>
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J<BR>
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On Thu, 2005-02-03 at 15:34 -0500, Seth Art wrote:
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<FONT COLOR="#000000">I am also interested in detecting streaming audio into our network. </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">Its been eating up a ton of our bandwidth. I searched the bleeding</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">signatures and it doesnt look like there are any rules yet that look</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">for streaming http traffic. Has anyone played with this yet? Is</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">there any other way to flag this stuff besides by retroactivily</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">finding IP address subnets?</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">-Seth</FONT>

<FONT COLOR="#000000">On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 05:27:12 -0800 (PST), Jose Maria Lopez</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&lt;<A HREF="mailto:jkerouac@bgsec.com">jkerouac@bgsec.co m</A>&gt; wrote:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; El mié, 26 de 01 de 2005 a las 05:22, Paul Aviles escribió:</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Is there a way to detect people streaming media or listening to music? With most of them using port 80 I am curious as to what approach to use.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Also, is there a way to send an email upon certain alerts?</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt;</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; &gt; Thanks</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; You can look in the bleeding-edge rules to see if there are some</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; rules to detect this kind of traffic. If you want just to stop</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; this kind of traffic people use to do it using ACLs with Squid</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; or blocking the IPs this programs connect to.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; About sending emails with certain alerts, I think OpenAanval</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; can do that.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Regards.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; --</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Jose Maria Lopez Hernandez</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; Director Tecnico de bgSEC</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; <A HREF="mailto:jkerouac@bgsec.com">jkerouac@bgsec.co m</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; bgSEC Seguridad y Consultoria de Sistemas Informaticos</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; <A HREF="http://www.bgsec.com">http://www.bgsec.com</A></FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; ESPAÑA</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; </FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; The only people for me are the mad ones -- the ones who are mad to live,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time,</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; like fabulous yellow Roman candles.</FONT>
<FONT COLOR="#000000">&gt; -- Jack Kerouac, &quot;On the Road&quot;</FONT>
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