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Hello,

I am sorry for asking the group how to unsubscribe, for some reason, the
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There is a sensor between an edge router the premisis distribution =
router. Traffic from say 3DMZ's plus the intranet is captured by
a snort ids.
We would like to separate the alerts based on DMZ Network address of the =
alert. I had thought I could collect all the
alerts in one database and create an acid.php script for each DMZ and =
create an acid database
for DMZ. While I would love the challenge, the mind is strong but the =
programming skills are weak.
An senior administrator suggested that I define a ruletype for each =
DMZ.
Questions:=20
1. Assuming I have 2000 rules, if I were to implement the following for =
3 DMZs
I would have a total of 8000 rules. Would this many rules affect a snort =
ids sensor's performance?
I realize that the answer to my question depends on how the rule lists =
are implemented.
If the rules were in a linearly linked list I know the performance would =
be affected.
In a Btree, where the more specific rule lists are tried first then the =
time
to access any rule should be constant and the performance should not be =
affected?

2. Is the syntax correct in my Example snort.conf and snort rules =
correct?

3. Is there a better way to create rules that send alerts to a =
particular database
based on the DMZ network address?


#Example excerpt of snort.conf
ruletype DMZ1_alert
{
type alert
output alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT
output database: log, mysql, user=3Dsnort dbname=3Ddmz1 =
host=3Dlocalhost
}
ruletype DMZ2_alert
{
type alert
output alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT
output database: log, mysql, user=3Dsnort dbname=3Ddmz3 =
host=3Dlocalhost
}
ruletype DMZ3_alert
{
type alert
output alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT
output database: log, mysql, user=3Dsnort dbname=3Ddmz3 =
host=3Dlocalhost
}


var DMZ1_NET [192.168.1.0/24,10.1.1.0/24]

var DMZ1_NET [192.168.2.0/24,10.1.2.0/24]

var DMZ1_NET [192.168.3.0/24,10.1.3.0/24]

var RULE_PATH /snort/rules
var DMZ1 DMZ1_NET
var DMZ2 DMZ2_NET
var DMZ3 DMZ3_NET

include $RULE_PATH/exploit.rules
include $RULE_PATH/$DMZ1/exploit.rules
include $RULE_PATH/$DMZ2/exploit.rules
include $RULE_PATH/$DMZ3/exploit.rules
----------------------------
Example of a few Snort Rules.
/snort/rules/exploit.rules
alert tcp any any -> any any (msg:"Possible exploit"; content:"|90|"; =
\
offset:40; depth:75;)

/snort/rules/DMZ1_NET/exploit.rules
DMZ1_alert tcp any any -> $DMZ1_NET any (msg:"Possible exploit"; =
content:"|90|"; \
offset:40; depth:75;)

/snort/rules/DMZ2_NET/exploit.rules
DMZ2_alert tcp any any -> $DMZ2_NET any (msg:"Possible exploit"; =
content:"|90|"; \
offset:40; depth:75;)

/snort/rules/DMZ3_NET/exploit.rules
DMZ3_alert tcp any any -> $DMZ3_NET any (msg:"Possible exploit"; =
content:"|90|"; \
offset:40; depth:75;)

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">There is a sensor&nbsp; between an edge =
router the premisis distribution router. Traffic from say 3DMZ's plus =
the intranet is captured by</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">a snort ids.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">We would like to separate the alerts =
based on DMZ Network address of the alert. I had thought I could collect =
all the</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">alerts in one database and create an =
acid.php script for each DMZ and create an acid database</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">for DMZ. While I would love the =
challenge, the mind is strong but the programming skills are =
weak.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;An senior administrator =
suggested that I define a&nbsp; ruletype for each DMZ.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Questions: </FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">1. Assuming I have 2000 rules, if I =
were to implement the following for 3 DMZs</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I would have a total of 8000 rules. =
Would this many rules affect a snort ids sensor's performance?</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">I realize that the answer to my =
question depends on how the rule lists are implemented.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">If the rules were in a linearly linked =
list I know the performance would be affected.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">In a Btree, where the more specific =
rule lists are tried first then the time</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">to access any rule should be constant =
and the performance should not be affected?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">2. Is the syntax correct in my Example =
snort.conf and snort rules correct?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">3. Is there a better way to create =
rules that send alerts to a particular database</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">based on the DMZ network =
address?</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">#Example excerpt of snort.conf</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">ruletype DMZ1_alert</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">{</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; type alert</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output =
alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output database: =
log, mysql, user=3Dsnort dbname=3Ddmz1 host=3Dlocalhost</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">}</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">ruletype DMZ2_alert</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">{</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; type alert</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output =
alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output database: =
log, mysql, user=3Dsnort dbname=3Ddmz3 host=3Dlocalhost</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">}</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">ruletype DMZ3_alert</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">{</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; type alert</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output =
alert_syslog: LOG_AUTH LOG_ALERT</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; output database: =
log, mysql, user=3Dsnort dbname=3Ddmz3 host=3Dlocalhost</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">}</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var DMZ1_NET =
[192.168.1.0/24,10.1.1.0/24]</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var DMZ1_NET =
[192.168.2.0/24,10.1.2.0/24]</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var DMZ1_NET =
[192.168.3.0/24,10.1.3.0/24]</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var RULE_PATH /snort/rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var DMZ1 DMZ1_NET</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var DMZ2 DMZ2_NET</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">var DMZ3 DMZ3_NET</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">include $RULE_PATH/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">include =
$RULE_PATH/$DMZ1/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">include =
$RULE_PATH/$DMZ2/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">include =
$RULE_PATH/$DMZ3/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">----------------------------</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">Example of a few Snort Rules.</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">/snort/rules/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">alert tcp any any -&gt; any any =
(msg:&quot;Possible&nbsp; exploit&quot;; content:&quot;|90|&quot;;&nbsp; =
\</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">offset:40; depth:75;)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">/snort/rules/DMZ1_NET/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">DMZ1_alert tcp any any -&gt; $DMZ1_NET =
any (msg:&quot;Possible&nbsp; exploit&quot;; =
content:&quot;|90|&quot;;&nbsp; \</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">offset:40; depth:75;)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">/snort/rules/DMZ2_NET/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">DMZ2_alert tcp any any -&gt; $DMZ2_NET =
any (msg:&quot;Possible&nbsp; exploit&quot;; =
content:&quot;|90|&quot;;&nbsp; \</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">offset:40; depth:75;)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">/snort/rules/DMZ3_NET/exploit.rules</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">DMZ3_alert tcp any any -&gt; $DMZ3_NET =
any (msg:&quot;Possible&nbsp; exploit&quot;; =
content:&quot;|90|&quot;;&nbsp; \</FONT>

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