RE: [Snort-users] NetSky worm signature definition...!!!

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Old 02-20-2004
Semerjian, Ohanes
 
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I agree with what shane mentioned and was hopping a more specific signature
that look into the payload. I mean if the virus is been caught and someone
found out that the payload contains certain sequence of values that identify
this worm.


Best Regards

Ohanes Semerjian


-----Original Message-----
From: Shane Williams [mailto:shanew@shanew.net]
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:31 AM
To: Tim Hergert
Cc: Semerjian, Ohanes; snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: RE: [Snort-users] NetSky worm signature definition...!!!


I would strongly discourage this rule to catch Klez, NetSky or any
virus, for that matter. Running the string through some archived
mail, I'm seeing lots of false positives, particularly in (legitimate)
word documents.

I'll see what I can do to come up with something that reduces false
positives.

On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Tim Hergert wrote:

> Having a portion that is a mass mailer, you'll see it come in on port 25

for
> sure . . .
>
> Using Matt Kettler's suggestion, I quickly kluged together a rule using

the
> clam av signature
> http://www.clamav.net/
>
> However, the old Klez detection rule seems to be triggered by NetSky, and
> the log times seem to correlate exactly with the logs from the antivirus
> software on the mail server.
>
> alert tcp $EXTERNAL_NET any -> $SMTP_SERVERS 25 (msg:"VIRUS Klez

Incoming";
> flow:to_server,established; dsize:>120;content:"MIME";
> content:"VGhpcyBwcm9"; classtype:misc-activity; sid:1800; rev:3;)
>
> Seems to work well for me, but maybe I'm just lucky.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Semerjian, Ohanes [mailto:ohanes.semerjian@au.mci.com]
> Sent: February 18, 2004 8:23 PM
> To: snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: [Snort-users] NetSky worm signature definition...!!!
>
>
> Hello all,
> Just was wondering if any one had this latest worm signature defined or

know
> it works (like which port, protocol it uses )
> Best Regards
> Ohanes Semerjian
>
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I agree with what shane mentioned and was hopping a =
more specific signature that look into the payload. I mean if the virus =
is been caught and someone found out that the payload contains certain =
sequence of values that identify this worm. </FONT></P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Best Regards</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ohanes Semerjian</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Shane Williams [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:shanew@shanew.net">mailto:shanew@sh anew.net</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:31 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Tim Hergert</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Cc: Semerjian, Ohanes; =
snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: RE: [Snort-users] NetSky worm signature =
definition...!!!</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I would strongly discourage this rule to catch Klez, =
NetSky or any</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>virus, for that matter.&nbsp; Running the string =
through some archived</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>mail, I'm seeing lots of false positives, =
particularly in (legitimate)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>word documents.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I'll see what I can do to come up with something that =
reduces false</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>positives.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>On Thu, 19 Feb 2004, Tim Hergert wrote:</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Having a portion that is a mass mailer, you'll =
see it come in on port 25 for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; sure . . . </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Using Matt Kettler's suggestion, I quickly =
kluged together a rule using the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; clam av signature</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; <A HREF=3D"http://www.clamav.net/" =
TARGET=3D"_blank">http://www.clamav.net/</A></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; However, the old Klez detection rule seems to =
be triggered by NetSky, and</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the log times seem to correlate exactly with =
the logs from the antivirus</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; software on the mail server.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; alert tcp $EXTERNAL_NET any -&gt; $SMTP_SERVERS =
25 (msg:&quot;VIRUS Klez Incoming&quot;;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; flow:to_server,established; =
dsize:&gt;120;content:&quot;MIME&quot;;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; content:&quot;VGhpcyBwcm9&quot;; =
classtype:misc-activity; sid:1800; rev:3;)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Seems to work well for me, but maybe I'm just =
lucky.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Semerjian, Ohanes [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:ohanes.semerjian@au.mci.com">mailto :ohanes.semerjian@au.m=
ci.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: February 18, 2004 8:23 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: [Snort-users] NetSky worm signature =
definition...!!!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hello all, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Just was wondering if any one had this latest =
worm signature defined or know</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it works (like which port, protocol it uses =
)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Best Regards </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Ohanes Semerjian </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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