Re: [Snort-Users] Is it really a HUB?

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Old 11-26-2003
Finney Charles E
 
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Default Re: [Snort-Users] Is it really a HUB?

If it is really autosensing port speed it is a multiport bridge =
(switch?).
If it is a single speed device with shared bandwidth across all active =
ports it is a repeater (hub?).

I have no idea where the terms hub and switch fit into the IEEE 802.x =
standards, I suspect about the same place telco switches and marketing =
fit.

Thanks,

Charlie

>Message: 10
>From: "Petriz, Pablo" <ppetriz@siscat.com.ar>
>To: "'snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net'"
> <snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
>Cc: "'ktk@enterprise.bidmc.harvard.edu'"
> <ktk@enterprise.bidmc.harvard.edu>,
> "'dluff@iitscdm.com.au'"
> <dluff@iitscdm.com.au>
>Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Is it really a HUB?
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 14:57:22 -0300
>
>I want to know if someone on this list is using the Cisco 1538 Micro =

Hub for
>snorting.
>
>In the overview pdf of this product says:
>
>- Autosensing on all ports allows automatic configuration for either =

10BaseT
>or
>100BaseT connections.
>- Built-in high-speed bridge function automatically connects 10BaseT =

and
>100BaseT
>workstations without an external switch or router.
>- Embedded switch supports store-and-forward switching and filtering =

and
>forwarding
>rate at full-wire speed.
>
>So i don't know if snort will see all the traffic on it...
>
>Thanks,
>
>PABLO
>
>> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 15:42:00 -0500
>> From: "Kristofer T. Karas" <ktk@enterprise.bidmc.harvard.edu>
>> To: snort-users@lists.sourceforge.net
>> CC: Darryl Luff <dluff@iitscdm.com.au>
>> Subject: Re: [Snort-users] Is it really a HUB?
>>=20
>> Darryl Luff wrote:
>>=20
>> > It works as you say. Except that if your station never transmits=20
>> > anything, the switch will not learn your MAC, and will flood all=20
>> > traffic addressed TO YOU out all ports. [snip]

>>=20
>> Thanks...
>>=20
>> Right, that was the very thought that hit me in the head the=20
>> other night=20
>> as I pondered the issues further. The router with the spanned port=20
>> talks to a small handful of other routers; the only MAC=20
>> addresses seen=20
>> coming in to the hub from that port will therefore be those=20
>> of the other=20
>> routers, all of which will make their way into the hub's MAC table. =20
>> Thus, within a few seconds or so, the small hub will not send=20
>> anything=20
>> to the IDS because it knows that the source and destination MACs all=20
>> reside on the port connected to the router's spanned port;=20
>> ergo, there=20
>> is no need to copy the packets to any of its (the hub's) other ports. =


>>=20
>> Bugger. I guess I need to find somebody that makes a small 4-port=20
>> switch where one can configure a port as a promiscuous=20
>> listening interface.
>>=20
>> Kris



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