Re: rsync through multiple ssh hops with password authentication

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Old 10-20-2005
Manuel López-Ibáñez
 
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Default Re: rsync through multiple ssh hops with password authentication

That technique of using a SSH tunnel through middle seems really nice.
Actually it is similar (I think even better because yours doesn't
require a rsync server) to the one described in the rsync FAQ [1] as
method 2.

[1] http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/FAQ.html#6

Matt McCutchen wrote:
> On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 01:15 +0100, Manuel López-Ibáñez wrote:
>
>>[...] There is a FAQ section (which I linked in my first message) explaining
>>how to do this using keys. That is not the point. For example, isn't it
>>possible for the root of middle (or some attacker) to get my keys and
>>use them?

>
>
> Yes, root of middle can cause you a lot of trouble. Not only can root
> intercept the password going to the second SSH; root can surreptitiously
> modify the rsync data going back and forth! Now I get the picture: you
> don't trust middle and would want nothing to do with it except that it
> is the only way your data can reach target. There's a technique that
> can deal with this situation very elegantly: forward target's SSH port
> itself to your machine. Here's the general procedure:
>
> Terminal 1:
> $ ssh -L 2222:target:22 -N -f middleuser@middle
> Password: middlepass
> <ssh just sits there>
>
> Terminal 2:
> $ ssh -P 2222 targetuser@localhost <command, maybe>
> Password: targetpass
> <interact with target>
>
> Terminal 1:
> ^C to kill the forwarding ssh
>
> If you use this setup, then middle can do nothing more to you than a
> random node on the Internet could. Authentication and data transfer
> appear to take place directly between your machine and target; all rsync
> and SSH-authentication data is securely encrypted when it passes through
> middle. This is really great. The only drawback is that any process on
> your machine can piggyback on your forwarding and make its own SSH
> connection to target; decide whether you want to worry about this.
>
> Since the second SSH thinks you're connecting to localhost but sees
> target's host key, you're going to get dire warnings about host keys.
> By editing your SSH configuration file (~/.ssh/config), you can both
> solve the host key problem and make the procedure more automatic. Try a
> configuration file like this:
>
> Host middle
> LocalForward 2222 target:22
> User middleuser
>
> Host target
> HostName localhost
> HostKeyAlias target
> Port 2222
> User targetuser
>
> Then, say "ssh -N middle" in one terminal, supply the password, and let
> ssh run. In another terminal, run rsync without any -e option. It will
> call "ssh target", which will know from the configuration file to
> actually go to localhost:2222 but to expect target's host key and will
> Do The Right Thing.
>
> I tried this technique, using a configuration file like the one above,
> and successfully accessed one of my school's machines via forwarded SSH.
> Good luck! I'm hoping this will prove to be the solution!




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