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--===============1848126522== Content-class: urn:content-classes:message Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7E88D.D5EADC64" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E88D.D5EADC64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi List, =20 I'm new to RRDtool and have some basic questions about organizing RRD files. =20 =20 >From looking at the documentation and the code it seems that both update and graph (uses internally fetch) commands always use explicitly or implicitly all DS defined in a given RRD file. =20 When using update it seems that even if <-template> option is used - still unknown value is set to any non mentioned DS.=20 When fetch is used there is no way in the API to relate to a specific DS and all are fetched. =20 If I'm correct: It seems reasonable to put some DS in same RRD file just if those DS are really updated together and may be used together to build graphs. Otherwise to use different RRD files - Each RRD file per DS. =20 =20 But on the other hand: What about disk space when many files are used? What about performance as each update requires open and closes the file - while bulk update of different DS in same RRD file can be done in one update call? =20 My questions: =20 Am I correct in my understanding the APIs? Is it recommended to define some DS on same RRD file?=20 If yes when it's recommended? =20 =20 Any help is appreciated. =20 =20 Thanks, =20 Yishai. =20 =20 ************************************************** ***********************= ********************* The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential. It is intended for the named recipient(s) only. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager= or=A0 the=20 sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make cop= ies. ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content ** ************************************************** ***********************= ********************* ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E88D.D5EADC64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <html xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:= schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html= 40"> <head> <meta http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"= > <meta name=3DGenerator content=3D"Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Font Definitions */ @font-face {font-family:Wingdings; panose-1:5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;} /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple; text-decoration:underline;} span.EmailStyle17 {mso-style-type:personal-compose; font-family:Arial; color:windowtext;} @page Section1 {size:595.3pt 841.9pt; margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} /* List Definitions */ @list l0 {mso-list-id:1091387615; mso-list-type:hybrid; mso-list-template-ids:-946684464 134807553 134807555 134807557 134807553= 134807555 134807557 134807553 134807555 134807557;} @list l0:level1 {mso-level-number-format:bullet; mso-level-text:\F0B7; mso-level-tab-stop:.5in; mso-level-number-position:left; text-indent:-.25in; font-family:Symbol;} ol {margin-bottom:0in;} ul {margin-bottom:0in;} --> </style> </head> <body lang=3DEN-GB link=3Dblue vlink=3Dpurple> <div class=3DSection1> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi List,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I’m new to RRDtool and have some basic questions about organizing RRD files.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 face=3DAr= ial><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:= p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>From looking at the documentation and the code = it seems that both update and graph (uses internally fetch) commands always = use explicitly or implicitly all DS defined in a given RRD file.<o:p></o:p></span></font= ></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When using update it seems that even if <-te= mplate> option is used - still unknown value is set to any non mentioned DS. <o:p= ></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>When fetch is used there is no way in the API t= o relate to a specific DS and all are fetched.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If I’m correct:<o:p></o:p></span></font><= /p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It seems reasonable to put some DS in same RRD = file just if those DS are really updated together and may be used together to = build graphs.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Otherwise to use different RRD files - Each RRD= file per DS.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>But on the other hand:<o:p></o:p></span></font>= </p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What about disk space when many files are used?= <o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>What about performance as each update requires = open and closes the file – while bulk update of different DS in same RRD= file can be done in one update call?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>My questions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dred face=3DArial><span lan= g=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:bold'>A= m I correct in my understanding the APIs?<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dred face=3DArial><span lan= g=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:bold'>I= s it recommended to define some DS on same RRD file? <o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><b><font size=3D2 color=3Dred face=3DArial><span lan= g=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:red;font-weight:bold'>I= f yes when it’s recommended?<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Any help is appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></fon= t></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span lang=3DEN-US style= =3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Yishai.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 face=3DAr= ial><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:= p></span></font></p> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.25in'><font size=3D2 face=3DAr= ial><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><o:p> </o:= p></span></font></p> </div> <br>********************************************** ***********************= *****************************<br> The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential.<br> It is intended for the named recipient(s) only.<br> If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager= or=A0 the <br> sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to anyone or make cop= ies.<br> ** eSafe scanned this email for viruses, vandals and malicious content **= <br> ************************************************** ***********************= *************************<br> </body> </html> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7E88D.D5EADC64-- --===============1848126522== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ rrd-users mailing list rrd-users@lists.oetiker.ch https://lists.oetiker.ch/cgi-bin/listinfo/rrd-users --===============1848126522==-- |