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mike wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> mike wrote: >> >>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>> >>>> mike wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> >>>>> I am new and trying to learn php. I am trying to use some of the >>>>> scripts in the php manual (http://www.php.net/manual/en/) to upload >>>>> a file. I can not seem to get the file to upload. Actually I am >>>>> "uploading" to the same windows XP computer, trying to move the >>>>> file from one directory to another. It appears that the file is >>>>> suppose to be passed to a temporary file in a temporary directory. >>>>> I think this is where I am having trouble. The form script seems to >>>>> get the file correctly. It calls and posts to the file processing >>>>> script correctly. But the file >>>>> processing script fails. I get error 6 which is "Missing a >>>>> temporary folder." (see below for complete scripts and outputs) >>>>> >>>>> If I do a phpinfo() call I see that upload_tmp_dir is not set >>>>> if I do $a=ini_get('upload_tmp_dir'); and echo $a I get NULL. >>>>> >>>>> The manual says that 'upload_tmp_dir' is set in php.ini. I found >>>>> php.ini in the Program Files/php/ directory. I find the variable set >>>>> in 2 places in that file: >>>>> >>>>> ****** >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> ; Whether to allow HTTP file uploads. >>>>> file_uploads = On >>>>> >>>>> ; Temporary directory for HTTP uploaded files (will use system >>>>> default ;if not >>>>> ; specified). >>>>> ;upload_tmp_dir = >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> ; Default timeout for socket based streams (seconds) >>>>> default_socket_timeout = 60 >>>>> upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >>>>> session.save_path="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\session" >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> . >>>>> ********* >>>>> The directory set in the 2nd instance: >>>>> >>>>> upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >>>>> >>>>> exists on my pc, however, phpinfo() says 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>> >>>>> If I uncomment the 1st instance and set it: >>>>> >>>>> upload_tmp_dir ="C:\tempphp" (a directory which I have created) >>>>> >>>>> phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>> >>>>> I have tried puting the php.ini file in my wwwroot directory and in >>>>> the working directory containing the scripts (I think this is where >>>>> it should be) and still phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>> >>>>> I have also tried ini_set('upload_tmp_dir', 'C:\tempphp'); >>>>> that also does not work. >>>>> >>>>> ********************************************* >>>>> Q1: How do I set the temporary upload file 'upload_tmp_dir' in >>>>> windows XP. >>>>> >>>>> Q2: Once I have set 'upload_tmp_dir' how do I know the temproary >>>>> file name 'tmp_name' that php uses to hold that file before it gets >>>>> moved using: >>>>> >>>>> move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], $uploadfile) >>>>> >>>>> Thank You >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ******************************************** >>>>> I use the following to generate a form to get the file name: >>>>> ***** >>>>> >>>>> <!-- The data encoding type, enctype, MUST be specified as below --> >>>>> <form enctype="multipart/form-data" >>>>> action="http://localhost/php/upload.php" method="POST"> >>>>> <!-- MAX_FILE_SIZE must precede the file input field --> >>>>> <input type="hidden" name="MAX_FILE_SIZE" value="30000" /> >>>>> <!-- Name of input element determines name in $_FILES array --> >>>>> Send this file: <input name="userfile" type="file" /> >>>>> <input type="submit" value="Send File" /> >>>>> </form> >>>>> <h1> hello world</h1> >>>>> </body> >>>>> </html> >>>>> >>>>> ****************************************** >>>>> Then I use the following php script >>>>> (http://localhost/php/upload.php) to do the moving: >>>>> ****** >>>>> >>>>> <html> >>>>> <body> >>>>> <?php >>>>> // In PHP versions earlier than 4.1.0, $HTTP_POST_FILES should be >>>>> used instead >>>>> // of $_FILES. >>>>> >>>>> $uploaddir = './upload/'; >>>>> $uploadfile = $uploaddir . basename($_FILES['userfile']['name']); >>>>> >>>>> echo '<pre>'; >>>>> if (move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], >>>>> $uploadfile)) { >>>>> echo "File is valid, and was successfully uploaded.\n"; >>>>> } else { >>>>> echo "Possible file upload problem\n"; >>>>> } >>>>> >>>>> echo 'Here is some more debugging info:'; >>>>> print_r($_FILES); >>>>> >>>>> print "</pre>"; >>>>> >>>>> ?> >>>>> </body> >>>>> </html> >>>>> *********************************** >>>>> >>>>> I get the following output: >>>>> >>>>> ******* >>>>> >>>>> Possible file upload problem >>>>> Here is some more debugging info:Array >>>>> ( >>>>> [userfile] => Array >>>>> ( >>>>> [name] => usage_rights.txt >>>>> [type] => >>>>> [tmp_name] => >>>>> [error] => 6 >>>>> [size] => 0 >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>>> ) >>>>> >>>> >>>> The first question is - which configuration file does phpino() say >>>> it's using? >>>> >>> >>> Hi Jerry, >>> >>> Configuration File (php.ini) Path C:\WINDOWS >>> >>> however when I look in the windows directory there is no php.ini file. >>> >>> Mike >>> >> >> OK, so it's using a default file. The easiest way right now to change >> that is to put your php.ini file in c:/windows. >> > OK I placed the php.ini file in the c:/windows directory but phpino() > still reports 'upload_tmp_dir' as unset. Do I need to stop and restart > the IIS web server. > > Thanks > mike > Of course. Why didn't you just try it instead of asking here? -- ================== Remove the "x" from my email address Jerry Stuckle JDS Computer Training Corp. jstucklex@attglobal.net ================== |
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> mike wrote: > >> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> mike wrote: >>> >>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>> >>>>> mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I am new and trying to learn php. I am trying to use some of the >>>>>> scripts in the php manual (http://www.php.net/manual/en/) to >>>>>> upload a file. I can not seem to get the file to upload. Actually >>>>>> I am "uploading" to the same windows XP computer, trying to move >>>>>> the file from one directory to another. It appears that the file >>>>>> is suppose to be passed to a temporary file in a temporary >>>>>> directory. I think this is where I am having trouble. The form >>>>>> script seems to get the file correctly. It calls and posts to the >>>>>> file processing script correctly. But the file >>>>>> processing script fails. I get error 6 which is "Missing a >>>>>> temporary folder." (see below for complete scripts and outputs) >>>>>> >>>>>> If I do a phpinfo() call I see that upload_tmp_dir is not set >>>>>> if I do $a=ini_get('upload_tmp_dir'); and echo $a I get NULL. >>>>>> >>>>>> The manual says that 'upload_tmp_dir' is set in php.ini. I found >>>>>> php.ini in the Program Files/php/ directory. I find the variable set >>>>>> in 2 places in that file: >>>>>> >>>>>> ****** >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> ; Whether to allow HTTP file uploads. >>>>>> file_uploads = On >>>>>> >>>>>> ; Temporary directory for HTTP uploaded files (will use system >>>>>> default ;if not >>>>>> ; specified). >>>>>> ;upload_tmp_dir = >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> ; Default timeout for socket based streams (seconds) >>>>>> default_socket_timeout = 60 >>>>>> upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >>>>>> session.save_path="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\session" >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> ********* >>>>>> The directory set in the 2nd instance: >>>>>> >>>>>> upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >>>>>> >>>>>> exists on my pc, however, phpinfo() says 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I uncomment the 1st instance and set it: >>>>>> >>>>>> upload_tmp_dir ="C:\tempphp" (a directory which I have created) >>>>>> >>>>>> phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have tried puting the php.ini file in my wwwroot directory and in >>>>>> the working directory containing the scripts (I think this is >>>>>> where it should be) and still phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' >>>>>> is not set. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also tried ini_set('upload_tmp_dir', 'C:\tempphp'); >>>>>> that also does not work. >>>>>> >>>>>> ********************************************* >>>>>> Q1: How do I set the temporary upload file 'upload_tmp_dir' in >>>>>> windows XP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Q2: Once I have set 'upload_tmp_dir' how do I know the temproary >>>>>> file name 'tmp_name' that php uses to hold that file before it >>>>>> gets moved using: >>>>>> >>>>>> move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], $uploadfile) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank You >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ******************************************** >>>>>> I use the following to generate a form to get the file name: >>>>>> ***** >>>>>> >>>>>> <!-- The data encoding type, enctype, MUST be specified as below --> >>>>>> <form enctype="multipart/form-data" >>>>>> action="http://localhost/php/upload.php" method="POST"> >>>>>> <!-- MAX_FILE_SIZE must precede the file input field --> >>>>>> <input type="hidden" name="MAX_FILE_SIZE" value="30000" /> >>>>>> <!-- Name of input element determines name in $_FILES array --> >>>>>> Send this file: <input name="userfile" type="file" /> >>>>>> <input type="submit" value="Send File" /> >>>>>> </form> >>>>>> <h1> hello world</h1> >>>>>> </body> >>>>>> </html> >>>>>> >>>>>> ****************************************** >>>>>> Then I use the following php script >>>>>> (http://localhost/php/upload.php) to do the moving: >>>>>> ****** >>>>>> >>>>>> <html> >>>>>> <body> >>>>>> <?php >>>>>> // In PHP versions earlier than 4.1.0, $HTTP_POST_FILES should be >>>>>> used instead >>>>>> // of $_FILES. >>>>>> >>>>>> $uploaddir = './upload/'; >>>>>> $uploadfile = $uploaddir . basename($_FILES['userfile']['name']); >>>>>> >>>>>> echo '<pre>'; >>>>>> if (move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], >>>>>> $uploadfile)) { >>>>>> echo "File is valid, and was successfully uploaded.\n"; >>>>>> } else { >>>>>> echo "Possible file upload problem\n"; >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> echo 'Here is some more debugging info:'; >>>>>> print_r($_FILES); >>>>>> >>>>>> print "</pre>"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> </body> >>>>>> </html> >>>>>> *********************************** >>>>>> >>>>>> I get the following output: >>>>>> >>>>>> ******* >>>>>> >>>>>> Possible file upload problem >>>>>> Here is some more debugging info:Array >>>>>> ( >>>>>> [userfile] => Array >>>>>> ( >>>>>> [name] => usage_rights.txt >>>>>> [type] => >>>>>> [tmp_name] => >>>>>> [error] => 6 >>>>>> [size] => 0 >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The first question is - which configuration file does phpino() say >>>>> it's using? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Jerry, >>>> >>>> Configuration File (php.ini) Path C:\WINDOWS >>>> >>>> however when I look in the windows directory there is no php.ini file. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>> >>> OK, so it's using a default file. The easiest way right now to >>> change that is to put your php.ini file in c:/windows. >>> >> OK I placed the php.ini file in the c:/windows directory but phpino() >> still reports 'upload_tmp_dir' as unset. Do I need to stop and restart >> the IIS web server. >> >> Thanks >> mike >> > > Of course. Why didn't you just try it instead of asking here? > Ok stopped and started the server. phpino() still reports 'upload_tmp_dir' as unset. Mike |
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> mike wrote: > >> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >> >>> mike wrote: >>> >>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote: >>>> >>>>> mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi >>>>>> >>>>>> I am new and trying to learn php. I am trying to use some of the >>>>>> scripts in the php manual (http://www.php.net/manual/en/) to >>>>>> upload a file. I can not seem to get the file to upload. Actually >>>>>> I am "uploading" to the same windows XP computer, trying to move >>>>>> the file from one directory to another. It appears that the file >>>>>> is suppose to be passed to a temporary file in a temporary >>>>>> directory. I think this is where I am having trouble. The form >>>>>> script seems to get the file correctly. It calls and posts to the >>>>>> file processing script correctly. But the file >>>>>> processing script fails. I get error 6 which is "Missing a >>>>>> temporary folder." (see below for complete scripts and outputs) >>>>>> >>>>>> If I do a phpinfo() call I see that upload_tmp_dir is not set >>>>>> if I do $a=ini_get('upload_tmp_dir'); and echo $a I get NULL. >>>>>> >>>>>> The manual says that 'upload_tmp_dir' is set in php.ini. I found >>>>>> php.ini in the Program Files/php/ directory. I find the variable set >>>>>> in 2 places in that file: >>>>>> >>>>>> ****** >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> ; Whether to allow HTTP file uploads. >>>>>> file_uploads = On >>>>>> >>>>>> ; Temporary directory for HTTP uploaded files (will use system >>>>>> default ;if not >>>>>> ; specified). >>>>>> ;upload_tmp_dir = >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> ; Default timeout for socket based streams (seconds) >>>>>> default_socket_timeout = 60 >>>>>> upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >>>>>> session.save_path="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\session" >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> . >>>>>> ********* >>>>>> The directory set in the 2nd instance: >>>>>> >>>>>> upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >>>>>> >>>>>> exists on my pc, however, phpinfo() says 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>>> >>>>>> If I uncomment the 1st instance and set it: >>>>>> >>>>>> upload_tmp_dir ="C:\tempphp" (a directory which I have created) >>>>>> >>>>>> phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have tried puting the php.ini file in my wwwroot directory and in >>>>>> the working directory containing the scripts (I think this is >>>>>> where it should be) and still phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' >>>>>> is not set. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have also tried ini_set('upload_tmp_dir', 'C:\tempphp'); >>>>>> that also does not work. >>>>>> >>>>>> ********************************************* >>>>>> Q1: How do I set the temporary upload file 'upload_tmp_dir' in >>>>>> windows XP. >>>>>> >>>>>> Q2: Once I have set 'upload_tmp_dir' how do I know the temproary >>>>>> file name 'tmp_name' that php uses to hold that file before it >>>>>> gets moved using: >>>>>> >>>>>> move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], $uploadfile) >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank You >>>>>> Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ******************************************** >>>>>> I use the following to generate a form to get the file name: >>>>>> ***** >>>>>> >>>>>> <!-- The data encoding type, enctype, MUST be specified as below --> >>>>>> <form enctype="multipart/form-data" >>>>>> action="http://localhost/php/upload.php" method="POST"> >>>>>> <!-- MAX_FILE_SIZE must precede the file input field --> >>>>>> <input type="hidden" name="MAX_FILE_SIZE" value="30000" /> >>>>>> <!-- Name of input element determines name in $_FILES array --> >>>>>> Send this file: <input name="userfile" type="file" /> >>>>>> <input type="submit" value="Send File" /> >>>>>> </form> >>>>>> <h1> hello world</h1> >>>>>> </body> >>>>>> </html> >>>>>> >>>>>> ****************************************** >>>>>> Then I use the following php script >>>>>> (http://localhost/php/upload.php) to do the moving: >>>>>> ****** >>>>>> >>>>>> <html> >>>>>> <body> >>>>>> <?php >>>>>> // In PHP versions earlier than 4.1.0, $HTTP_POST_FILES should be >>>>>> used instead >>>>>> // of $_FILES. >>>>>> >>>>>> $uploaddir = './upload/'; >>>>>> $uploadfile = $uploaddir . basename($_FILES['userfile']['name']); >>>>>> >>>>>> echo '<pre>'; >>>>>> if (move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], >>>>>> $uploadfile)) { >>>>>> echo "File is valid, and was successfully uploaded.\n"; >>>>>> } else { >>>>>> echo "Possible file upload problem\n"; >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> echo 'Here is some more debugging info:'; >>>>>> print_r($_FILES); >>>>>> >>>>>> print "</pre>"; >>>>>> >>>>>> ?> >>>>>> </body> >>>>>> </html> >>>>>> *********************************** >>>>>> >>>>>> I get the following output: >>>>>> >>>>>> ******* >>>>>> >>>>>> Possible file upload problem >>>>>> Here is some more debugging info:Array >>>>>> ( >>>>>> [userfile] => Array >>>>>> ( >>>>>> [name] => usage_rights.txt >>>>>> [type] => >>>>>> [tmp_name] => >>>>>> [error] => 6 >>>>>> [size] => 0 >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>>> ) >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> The first question is - which configuration file does phpino() say >>>>> it's using? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Jerry, >>>> >>>> Configuration File (php.ini) Path C:\WINDOWS >>>> >>>> however when I look in the windows directory there is no php.ini file. >>>> >>>> Mike >>>> >>> >>> OK, so it's using a default file. The easiest way right now to >>> change that is to put your php.ini file in c:/windows. >>> >> OK I placed the php.ini file in the c:/windows directory but phpino() >> still reports 'upload_tmp_dir' as unset. Do I need to stop and restart >> the IIS web server. >> >> Thanks >> mike >> > > Of course. Why didn't you just try it instead of asking here? > Thanks for you help mike |
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On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 11:11:16 -0800, in comp.lang.php mike
<spammesillt@junkmail.com> <pxBAj.61849$Pv2.56757@newssvr23.news.prodigy.ne t> wrote: >| Hi >| >| I am new and trying to learn php. I am trying to use some of the scripts >| in the php manual (http://www.php.net/manual/en/) to upload a file. I >| can not seem to get the file to upload. Actually I am "uploading" to the >| same windows XP computer, trying to move the file from one directory to >| another. It appears that the file is suppose to be passed to a temporary >| file in a temporary directory. I think this is where I am having >| trouble. The form script seems to get the file correctly. It calls and >| posts to the file processing script correctly. But the file >| processing script fails. I get error 6 which is "Missing a temporary >| folder." (see below for complete scripts and outputs) >| >| If I do a phpinfo() call I see that upload_tmp_dir is not set >| if I do $a=ini_get('upload_tmp_dir'); and echo $a I get NULL. >| >| The manual says that 'upload_tmp_dir' is set in php.ini. I found >| php.ini in the Program Files/php/ directory. I find the variable set >| in 2 places in that file: >| >| ****** >| . >| . >| . >| ; Whether to allow HTTP file uploads. >| file_uploads = On >| >| ; Temporary directory for HTTP uploaded files (will use system default >| ;if not >| ; specified). >| ;upload_tmp_dir = >| . >| . >| . >| ; Default timeout for socket based streams (seconds) >| default_socket_timeout = 60 >| upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >| session.save_path="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\session" Use either forward slash / or double backslashes \\ upload_tmp_dir="C:/DOCUME~1/MIA-KI~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/php/upload" upload_tmp_dir="C:\\DOCUME~1\\MIA-KI~1\\LOCALS~1\\Temp\\php\\upload" The single backslash tells most programs/scripts that the next character is 'special'. When you echo upload_tmp_dir you will see C:OCUME~1IA-KI~1OCALS~1emphppload >| . >| . >| . >| ********* >| The directory set in the 2nd instance: >| >| upload_tmp_dir="C:\DOCUME~1\MIA-KI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\php\upload" >| >| exists on my pc, however, phpinfo() says 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >| >| If I uncomment the 1st instance and set it: >| >| upload_tmp_dir ="C:\tempphp" (a directory which I have created) >| >| phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >| >| I have tried puting the php.ini file in my wwwroot directory and in >| the working directory containing the scripts (I think this is where it >| should be) and still phpinfo() reports 'upload_tmp_dir' is not set. >| >| I have also tried ini_set('upload_tmp_dir', 'C:\tempphp'); >| that also does not work. >| >| ********************************************* >| Q1: How do I set the temporary upload file 'upload_tmp_dir' in windows XP. >| >| Q2: Once I have set 'upload_tmp_dir' how do I know the temproary file >| name 'tmp_name' that php uses to hold that file before it gets moved using: >| >| move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], $uploadfile) >| >| Thank You >| Mike >| >| >| >| ******************************************** >| I use the following to generate a form to get the file name: >| ***** >| >| <!-- The data encoding type, enctype, MUST be specified as below --> >| <form enctype="multipart/form-data" >| action="http://localhost/php/upload.php" method="POST"> >| <!-- MAX_FILE_SIZE must precede the file input field --> >| <input type="hidden" name="MAX_FILE_SIZE" value="30000" /> >| <!-- Name of input element determines name in $_FILES array --> >| Send this file: <input name="userfile" type="file" /> >| <input type="submit" value="Send File" /> >| </form> >| <h1> hello world</h1> >| </body> >| </html> >| >| ****************************************** >| Then I use the following php script (http://localhost/php/upload.php) to >| do the moving: >| ****** >| >| <html> >| <body> >| <?php >| // In PHP versions earlier than 4.1.0, $HTTP_POST_FILES should be used >| instead >| // of $_FILES. >| >| $uploaddir = './upload/'; >| $uploadfile = $uploaddir . basename($_FILES['userfile']['name']); >| >| echo '<pre>'; >| if (move_uploaded_file($_FILES['userfile']['tmp_name'], $uploadfile)) { >| echo "File is valid, and was successfully uploaded.\n"; >| } else { >| echo "Possible file upload problem\n"; >| } >| >| echo 'Here is some more debugging info:'; >| print_r($_FILES); >| >| print "</pre>"; >| >| ?> >| </body> >| </html> >| *********************************** >| >| I get the following output: >| >| ******* >| >| Possible file upload problem >| Here is some more debugging info:Array >| ( >| [userfile] => Array >| ( >| [name] => usage_rights.txt >| [type] => >| [tmp_name] => >| [error] => 6 >| [size] => 0 >| ) >| >| ) -- ------------------------------------------------------------- jnorthau@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply -- ------------------------------------------------------------- |
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