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Old 03-01-2008
Jerry Stuckle
 
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Tony wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Tony wrote:
>>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What can you say when even W3C doesn't recommend it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I would be very interested in where the W3C says that - I haven't
>>> been able to find anything like that. Most of the info I'm able to
>>> find seems to point the other way - such as:
>>> http://www.webstandards.org/learn/ar...skw3c/oct2003/
>>> Of course, that's over 4 years old - and that's also the case with
>>> the info that I find...
>>>

>>
>> That's right - it's over 4 years old. Check the www.w3c.org site. I
>> don't have the link handy, but they are now pushing towards HTML 5.0
>> instead of a new version of XHTML.
>>

>
> I did check out that site, quite a bit. I found nothing about them
> recommending HTML over XHTML, or even suggesting that you don't use
> XHTML. According to everything I read they are concurrently developing a
> new XHTML specification as well as HTML 5.
>
> I am willing to accept evidence to the contrary, but without evidence, I
> can't accept that the W3C does not recommend XHTML.
>
> I was really hoping you had that link - it would have helped me in
> certain discussions I have been having at work.
>


Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about your discussions at work.

I'll look up the link sometime when I have the time. Right now I'm too
busy to do your work for you.

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Old 03-01-2008
Tony
 
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Tony wrote:
>> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>>>
>>> What can you say when even W3C doesn't recommend it?
>>>

>>
>> I would be very interested in where the W3C says that - I haven't been
>> able to find anything like that. Most of the info I'm able to find
>> seems to point the other way - such as:
>> http://www.webstandards.org/learn/ar...skw3c/oct2003/
>> Of course, that's over 4 years old - and that's also the case with the
>> info that I find...
>>

>
> That's right - it's over 4 years old. Check the www.w3c.org site. I
> don't have the link handy, but they are now pushing towards HTML 5.0
> instead of a new version of XHTML.
>


I did check out that site, quite a bit. I found nothing about them
recommending HTML over XHTML, or even suggesting that you don't use
XHTML. According to everything I read they are concurrently developing a
new XHTML specification as well as HTML 5.

I am willing to accept evidence to the contrary, but without evidence, I
can't accept that the W3C does not recommend XHTML.

I was really hoping you had that link - it would have helped me in
certain discussions I have been having at work.
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Old 03-01-2008
Tony
 
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Tony wrote:
>> I was really hoping you had that link - it would have helped me in
>> certain discussions I have been having at work.
>>

>
> Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about your discussions at work.
>
> I'll look up the link sometime when I have the time. Right now I'm too
> busy to do your work for you.
>


A bit touchy, aren't we?

I was trying to point out that I wasn't challenging you. Instead I was
hoping you were right, and had ready information to back up your claim.
It appears that you don't.

I have been researching the XHTML vs HTMML debate for quite some time,
and I have never found a definitive statement by an organization like
W3C such as you claim they made.

Your response, honestly, leaves me questioning your credibility on this
claim. And it gives me a better understanding of how you seem to have
developed such a following as nully & crowd. I've tried to keep our
discussions reasonably friendly - apparently that doesn't work both ways.
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Old 03-01-2008
Jerry Stuckle
 
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Tony wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Tony wrote:
>>> I was really hoping you had that link - it would have helped me in
>>> certain discussions I have been having at work.
>>>

>>
>> Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about your discussions at work.
>>
>> I'll look up the link sometime when I have the time. Right now I'm
>> too busy to do your work for you.
>>

>
> A bit touchy, aren't we?
>
> I was trying to point out that I wasn't challenging you. Instead I was
> hoping you were right, and had ready information to back up your claim.
> It appears that you don't.
>
> I have been researching the XHTML vs HTMML debate for quite some time,
> and I have never found a definitive statement by an organization like
> W3C such as you claim they made.
>
> Your response, honestly, leaves me questioning your credibility on this
> claim. And it gives me a better understanding of how you seem to have
> developed such a following as nully & crowd. I've tried to keep our
> discussions reasonably friendly - apparently that doesn't work both ways.
>


No, I'm just getting tired of the argument. You can google as well as I
can, and you can find the problems with using XHTML and browsers such as
IE as well as I can.

Go ahead and use XHTML if you want. You'll lose customers because their
browsers don't display it correctly, but who cares? I sure don't.

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Old 03-01-2008
Tony
 
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Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> Tony wrote:


>
> No, I'm just getting tired of the argument. You can google as well as I
> can, and you can find the problems with using XHTML and browsers such as
> IE as well as I can.


I have done this. I have seen plenty of discussion on the matter. I have
not seen a statement by the W3C such as you claimed they made. I am
specifically addressing that claim.


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Old 03-02-2008
Jerry Stuckle
 
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Tony wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Tony wrote:

>
>>
>> No, I'm just getting tired of the argument. You can google as well as
>> I can, and you can find the problems with using XHTML and browsers
>> such as IE as well as I can.

>
> I have done this. I have seen plenty of discussion on the matter. I have
> not seen a statement by the W3C such as you claimed they made. I am
> specifically addressing that claim.
>
>
>


No, you continue to argue with the answers. And I'm not engaging any
longer.

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