10 Reasons Why PHP is Better than ASP

On Jan 18, 2:09*pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> "bob" <spar...@altervista.org> wrote in message
>
> news:fmq1mo$18vo$2@newsreader1.mclink.it...
>
> > Adam Frame wrote:
>
> >> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
> >> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
> >> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
> >> at all.
>
> > I think Steve is in need of an *automatic BANNING MACHINE* whenever he
> > writes ...
>
> > I read 2 times what I wrote before posting anything. Please consider doing
> > that from now on.
>
> > Excuse me if OT
>
> lol. yes, an automatic banning machine would save me much time. instead of
> having to respond, i'd just boot them off the internet onto which they would
> n'er be allowed to return. ROFLMFAO!!!
>
> and btw, as i'm literate, i comprehend what i read...the *first* time
> around. i'm sorry you're a bit slower at it, but there's not so much i can
> do there to help you out, mate.

"ROFLMFAO"? How old are you exactly?

> It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".

Amen.

<bakermi@cbc.ca> wrote in message
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On Jan 18, 2:09 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> "bob" <spar...@altervista.org> wrote in message
>
> news:fmq1mo$18vo$2@newsreader1.mclink.it...
>
> > Adam Frame wrote:
>
> >> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
> >> in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to
> >> a
> >> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
> >> at all.
>
> > I think Steve is in need of an *automatic BANNING MACHINE* whenever he
> > writes ...
>
> > I read 2 times what I wrote before posting anything. Please consider
> > doing
> > that from now on.
>
> > Excuse me if OT
>
> lol. yes, an automatic banning machine would save me much time. instead of
> having to respond, i'd just boot them off the internet onto which they
> would
> n'er be allowed to return. ROFLMFAO!!!
>
> and btw, as i'm literate, i comprehend what i read...the *first* time
> around. i'm sorry you're a bit slower at it, but there's not so much i can
> do there to help you out, mate.

>>"ROFLMFAO"? How old are you exactly?

93, and you?

Steve wrote:
> "Adam Frame" <mistraal@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>> all.
>
> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>
> the space is important. :)
>
>

However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
posted it and I thank you for your correction.

Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
threaten others? I've never understood that.

For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
likely that you get your point across.

My 2 cents.

On Jan 20, 9:40 am, Adam Frame <mistr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Steve wrote:
> > "Adam Frame" <mistr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
> >> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
> >> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
> >> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
> >> all.
>
> > first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
> > one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
> > be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>
> > the space is important. :)
>
> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>
> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
> threaten others? I've never understood that.

That's easy to answer.
Because they are not face to face, they would think better otherwise.
But don't take it personal, it's just the way Usenet is and there are
even some positive sides in that attitude, such as frankness.

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a@b.c>
wrote:

>Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>> Ali Bobo wrote:
>>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
>>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>
>>>> news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
>>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
>>>> experienced
>>>> *all* api's known to man!
>>>>
>>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
>>>>> solution in PHP for you
>>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
>>>> afforded asp?
>>>> think again.
>>>>
>>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
>>>>> anything goes.
>>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
>>>> asp.net,
>>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
>>>> troll.
>>>>
>>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
>>>> fuck?!!!
>>>>
>>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
>>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
>>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
>>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>>>>
>>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
>>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
>>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
>>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
>>>> development
>>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>>>>
>>>> next dumbass remark?
>>>>
>>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
>>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
>>>>> modules installed.
>>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
>>>> mooting
>>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>>>>
>>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
>>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
>>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
>>>> ago? asp
>>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
>>>> completely
>>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
>>>> performs
>>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
>>>> the
>>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
>>>> the os
>>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>>>>
>>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
>>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
>>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
>>>> moot...again!
>>>>
>>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
>>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
>>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
>>>> eachother.
>>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
>>>> reference the
>>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
>>>> regex.
>>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
>>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
>>>> because NO
>>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>>>>
>>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
>>>>> messages.
>>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
>>>> same time
>>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
>>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
>>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
>>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
>>>> tell
>>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
>>>> error
>>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>>>>
>>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
>>>> (not
>>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
>>>> in asp,
>>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>>>>
>>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>>>>
>>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
>>>> solution?
>>>>
>>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>>>>
>>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
>>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
>>>> further,
>>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
>>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
>>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>>>
>>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
>>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
>>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
>>> to understand the reasons.
>>>
>>> Just two more questions:
>>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
>>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
>>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
>>> Internet Distributed Applications:
>>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
>>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
>>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
>>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
>>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
>>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
>>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
>>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
>>> http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>>>
>>
>> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
>> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
>> for it.
>>
>> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
>> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>>
>
>Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP
>
>It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".
>
>This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
>insignificance.
>
>Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
>thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
>and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
>is usually overwhelming.

You're just as fuckin stupid as the person who wrote the shit in the
OP. I mean either you can step the fuck up and post actual examples
and situations in which ASP fails and PHP does not...or you can't.

Yer just another dumbfuck (ie blind Microsoft hater), no different
from the dumbfuck Mac humping flunkies or the dumbfuck Linux lovin ass
stains...all y'all are a bunch of fuckin retards plain and simple.
You base your NONpinions on trivial stupidity often directly linked to
your short between the keyboard and chair, blaming your stupidity on
Microsoft and grasping at anecdotal lames you slurped off some
tweenage muppet fuck run Webbie board. 10 times out 10 when someone
claims their problem is caused by Microsoft...it's really caused by
their own stupidity, usually because Microsoft didn't hold their
bumbling hand enough through the setup/installation or the system
their running is using crap ass factory seconds garbageware they
bought off eBay.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:21:10 +0100, Adam Frame <mistraal@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are
>in need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute
>at all.

Bumbles the newfag dipshit apparently forgot where he was again. Free
cl00, Newfag, nobody on Usenet gives a fuck about your psychological
deficiencies or how much your parents abused and molested you as a
child to make you feel dirty every time you hear a word like FUCK. If
you want some teddy bear picnic, hand holding, butt hugging, My Little
Pony fairy tale land you best retard the fuck on back to Webbie land
where a nice ban happy mod can shield your virgin eyes from all the
"horrors" of the big bad Usenet. In other words, yes, Usenet is the
sordid uncle that molested you as a child...cry now, Newfag...cry for
uncle Usenet. `, )

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame <mistraal@gmail.com>
wrote:

>Steve wrote:
>> "Adam Frame" <mistraal@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>> all.
>>
>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>
>> the space is important. :)
>>
>>
>
>However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>
>Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>threaten others? I've never understood that.
>
>For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>likely that you get your point across.
>
>My 2 cents.

The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).

Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
time they hear a word like CUNT.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:40:32 +0100, Adam Frame <mistraal@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Steve wrote:
>>> "Adam Frame" <mistraal@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Ya2dna-v0czkHRLaRVn_vwA@giganews.com...
>>>> Do you get a kick out of insulting people on the internet? You, sir are in
>>>> need of a mouthwash with a bar of soap. If you cannot contribute to a
>>>> civilized discussion without swearing and insults then don't contribute at
>>>> all.
>>> first of all, 'mouthwash' is the generic term for a product used *TO* wash
>>> one's mouth. i think you mean that i need my mouth washed with...that would
>>> be 'in need of a mouth wash with...'
>>>
>>> the space is important. :)
>>>
>>>
>> However nitpicking your response may seem, I did realise that once I had
>> posted it and I thank you for your correction.
>>
>> Now back to the matter in hand, why is it that on the internet people
>> find it more acceptable to swear, call people names and (god forbid)
>> threaten others? I've never understood that.
>>
>> For me a much more damning response to a post you do not agree with is
>> one which refutes each and every point you intend to without resorting
>> to insults. You just debase your very own argument and make it much less
>> likely that you get your point across.
>>
>> My 2 cents.
>
> The thing you don't get Newfag, is that not everyone is a church going
> Christian conservative fuckhead like you are. And yeah, if the only
> people you hang out with in the real world are OTHER newfag Christian
> conservative fuckheads like yourself...obviously yer not gonna hear
> much "foul language" (as your parents beat you to think).
>
> Unfortunately for you, Newfag, the Internet is made up of people ALL
> over the world of ALL different walks of life, cultures, subcultures,
> interests, etc, etc. And in a LOT of those communities, the ones a
> newfag Christian conservative like yourself has no fuckin cl00 about,
> yeah, "foul language" is very much the norm and isn't actually
> considered "foul" at all...then again these are the people whose
> parents DIDN'T beat and molest them into feeling sick and dirty every
> time they hear a word like CUNT.
>
> --
>
> Onideus Mad Hatter
> mhm ¹ x ¹
> http://www.backwater-productions.net
> http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog
>
>
> Hatter Quotes
> -------------
> "You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
> best."
>
> "I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
> with it."
>
> "I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."
>
> "Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."
>
> "Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"
>
> "Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
> bad."
>
> "There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."
>
> "The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."
>
> "Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
> of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"
>
> "Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
> that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
> of its relevancy."
>
> "Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
> creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."
>
> "Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."
>
> "People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
> they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
> givin em out for free."
>
> "Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
> So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
> to their merry little mess."
>
> "There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
> horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
> their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
> sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
> images burned into their tiny little minds'."
>
> "How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
> properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."
>
> "Those who record history are those who control history."
>
> "I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
> endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
> don't get sent to me...I come for you."
>
> "Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
> tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."
>
> "Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
> function?"
>
> "Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
> Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
> indicates an increase in Webtv users."
>
> "Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
> gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

¡Me cago en la leche de tu madre! ¡Hijo de puta, cabrón!
¡Plasta de mierda, maricón! (es como hablan en *mi* comunidad)

You see, Oh mighty keyboard warrior!, I have no aversion to swearing or
insults. I do not, however, see a point to them in a work-related newsgroup.

Now, reread your post and tell yourself that you sound like anything but
a bitter, fat, spotty 14 year old who lives in his mothers basement.

On Jan 20, 12:20 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:18 +0000, The Natural Philosopher <a...@b.c>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> >> Ali Bobo wrote:
> >>> On Jan 16, 7:31 pm, "Steve" <no....@example.com> wrote:
> >>>> "Ali Bobo" <1001w...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >>>>news:3b0a3c54-0c8a-4465-9e33-566f84ecd966@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>>>> 1. PHP.NET the greatest API resource known to MAN
> >>>> completely relative statement. i can safely assume you've not
> >>>> experienced
> >>>> *all* api's known to man!
>
> >>>>> 2. If you have a problem, someone will have already implemented a
> >>>>> solution in PHP for you
> >>>> and this is in contrast to the support and examples/solutions
> >>>> afforded asp?
> >>>> think again.
>
> >>>>> 3. Syntax is better, closer to C, C++, and Java. Unlike VB where
> >>>>> anything goes.
> >>>> uhhhh, php is just as loose as asp - which is *vb script* NOT VB.
> >>>> asp.net,
> >>>> however, is more OOP capable than php AND forces strong data-typing.
> >>>> troll.
>
> >>>> as for which stylistic preference you have in writing code, who gives a
> >>>> fuck?!!!
>
> >>>>> 4. To run ASP you need IIS on windows, which is not free, for PHP
> >>>>> however you need Linux and Apache which are FREE!!
> >>>> sorry, wrong again! i can run asp on linux boxes running apache. that
> >>>> technology is at least 8 years old, idiot.
>
> >>>>> 5. Great built in support for ftp, email, graphics package GD2 and
> >>>>> also MySQL (also FREE).
> >>>> and, asp has *greater* built in support for these and more. last time i
> >>>> checked, ms was giving asp.net AND a world-class IDE for it's
> >>>> development
> >>>> away...i.e. FREE.
>
> >>>> next dumbass remark?
>
> >>>>> 6. PHP will run on Unix, Linux, Solaris and Windows. ASP is mainly
> >>>>> only Windows associated but you can use it on linux with additional
> >>>>> modules installed.
> >>>> which completely bastardizes your statement number 4...along with
> >>>> mooting
> >>>> itself in the process. are you that brain-dead?
>
> >>>>> 7. PHP code is much faster, ASP is developed on the COM based
> >>>>> architecture, this is an overhead for the server.
> >>>> and what version of asp are you talking about? the one from 8 years
> >>>> ago? asp
> >>>> as of right now can backwardly support com. it's architecture is
> >>>> completely
> >>>> OOP based and everything runs from a NON-COM based framework. asp
> >>>> performs
> >>>> equally in speed to php and in a lot of cases, outperforms it. one of
> >>>> the
> >>>> benefits of a company that creates a web language and also providing
> >>>> the os
> >>>> on which it will run, the functionality is built into the kernel itself.
>
> >>>>> 8. mod_rewrite, need I say more.
> >>>> the answer is, you need to say something that applies. mod_rewrite is
> >>>> apache, not php. as i can run asp via apache, your point is
> >>>> moot...again!
>
> >>>>> 9. Advanced Perl-compatible regular expression functions and loads
> >>>>> of built in support for regular expressions on the whole.
> >>>> funny how think, or imply, that asp and regex are strangers to
> >>>> eachother.
> >>>> specifically, if i develop a vb < .net application, i have to
> >>>> reference the
> >>>> *scripting* library (you know, the web version of vb) in order to use
> >>>> regex.
> >>>> asp has *always* supported regex...vb.net is the first time regex was
> >>>> directly supported, without COM, in vb. geee, why would that be?
> >>>> because NO
> >>>> NEW LANGUAGES BY MS HAVE A COM ARCHITECTURES.
>
> >>>>> 10. Greater control over error handling, and more detailed error
> >>>>> messages.
> >>>> last i checked, try/catch/finally was introduced to asp around the
> >>>> same time
> >>>> it was supported in php. and, since it's the same construct, how do you
> >>>> suppose php has greater control. further, both php and asp allow you to
> >>>> generate customer error messages. as for the defined errors, i can only
> >>>> laugh. leave out a semi-colon in php, run the page in the browser and
> >>>> tell
> >>>> me exactly what the error means...not to mention WHERE the *actual*
> >>>> error
> >>>> is. ROFLMFAO !!!
>
> >>>> and, btw, when could you ever seemlessly integrate external resources
> >>>> (not
> >>>> just modules) into php. oh shit! you mean you had to use COM(). lol.
> >>>> in asp,
> >>>> if an api exists, i can consume it.
>
> >>>> how easy is it to set up php for debugging?
>
> >>>> can you use vb, c#, c, c++, or any one of 23 others to develop a php
> >>>> solution?
>
> >>>> can you switch, in code, mid-stream to from one language to another?
>
> >>>> if you have no clue as to the technology against which you are making
> >>>> comparisons, how the fuck can you expect to be taken seriously?!!!
> >>>> further,
> >>>> how can you ever expect to pick the right tool for the job...which is
> >>>> COMPLETELY what makes one better than the other! it's all relative to
> >>>> changing factors that you don't even consider, troll.
>
> >>> I just copy&pasted it, from the link at the bottom.
> >>> You are quite right and I thank you for your valuable opinion.
> >>> I have several friends that have opted for ASP over PHP and I wanted
> >>> to understand the reasons.
>
> >>> Just two more questions:
> >>> 1- Do you actually prefer ASP to PHP?
> >>> 2- A bit off-topic but, What do you make of this statement?:
> >>> The paragraphs below describes W3Schools' vision about future
> >>> Internet Distributed Applications:
> >>> "Executables, C++ (and Java too) must die
> >>> Neither C++ nor Java can ever create standard components that can run
> >>> on all computers. There is no room for these languages in future
> >>> distributed applications. Executables are not standard. COM objects
> >>> are not standard, DLL-files are not standard. Registry settings are
> >>> not standard. INI-files are not standard. None of these components
> >>> must be allowed to destroy your dream of a standard distributed
> >>> application that will run on almost any computer in the world."
> >>>http://www.w3schools.com/ngws/ngws_standards.asp
>
> >> All of this are the opinions of one or two people who put together a web
> >> site. Nothing more, nothing less. It is worth exactly what you paid
> >> for it.
>
> >> Of course not everything's standard. That's because different people
> >> have different needs. And it will always remain that way.
>
> >Indeed, however they left out the most important reason to use PHP
>
> >It's not, never has been, and never will be, "Cursed By Microsoft".
>
> >This to me is so overwhelming, that all other reasons pale into
> >insignificance.
>
> >Nothing that Microsoft gets involved with ever works properly
> >thereafter. The temptation to make it only work with Microsoft products,
> >and if possible only the LATEST and MOST EXPENSIVE Microsoft products,
> >is usually overwhelming.
>
> You're just as fuckin stupid as the person who wrote the shit in the
> OP. I mean either you can step the fuck up and post actual examples
> and situations in which ASP fails and PHP does not...or you can't.
I beg to disagree.
I am more stupid and ignorant than he is.

> Yer just another dumbfuck (ie blind Microsoft hater), no different
> from the dumbfuck Mac humping flunkies or the dumbfuck Linux lovin ass
> stains...all y'all are a bunch of fuckin retards plain and simple.
> You base your NONpinions on trivial stupidity often directly linked to
> your short between the keyboard and chair, blaming your stupidity on
> Microsoft and grasping at anecdotal lames you slurped off some
> tweenage muppet fuck run Webbie board. 10 times out 10 when someone
> claims their problem is caused by Microsoft...it's really caused by
> their own stupidity, usually because Microsoft didn't hold their
> bumbling hand enough through the setup/installation or the system
> their running is using crap ass factory seconds garbageware they
> bought off eBay.
I beg to disagree again.
Microsoft Windows, for example, doesn't deliver what you're paying
for, which is quite a lot compared to Linux.
You can get software as good as Microsoft's for free and if you run
into trouble there will be other users out there to help you at no
cost.
And as for large corporations, communities, offices, etc. using Open
Source software has a lot of advantages too, such as stability,
compatibility and reducing huge costs.
We are in 2008 now Hatter, your arguments sound very 90sh.