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Vince Morgan wrote:
> "Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:m6ydnYWSlM9YGvnanZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@comcast.com. ..
>> Hi, Garry,
>>
>> The problem is you're using short tags (bad), and your server has short
>> tags disabled (short_open_tag=off in your php.ini file) (good).
>>
>> You should get in the habit of using long open tags, like Vince
>> indicated. Short open tags can get confusing, especially if you use XML
>> (which has the same <? open tag).
>>
> Actualy I overlooked/missed the short tag. And Jerry is being more kind to
> me than I deserve.
>
> Vince
>
>
>

Naw, Vince, it was just an honest misteak :-)

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> But you miss the fact you do not WANT it turned on. It will cause
> problems if you ever have an XML page on your site.

I think you're overstating the problems slightly.

It will cause a minor inconvenience if you ever want to generate XML via
PHP, in that processing instructions will need to be explicitly echoed.

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> It will cause a minor inconvenience if you ever want to generate XML via
> PHP, in that processing instructions will need to be explicitly echoed.

It will cause a major inconvinience, if you ever want to use PHP6.

Guys, just get it: Just because it works somehow, it's not less bad.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:14:45 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> jebblue wrote:
>> Thanks for the question and the answer. My server had that set to On,
>> just fixed it.
>>
>>
> But you miss the fact you do not WANT it turned on. It will cause
> problems if you ever have an XML page on your site. I expect the option
> will be removed in a future release.
>
> You should turn it off and use <?php start tags, instead.

I'm confused, I said I fixed it meaning I turned it off, it was set to
on, that's what to do right?

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Jonas Werres wrote:
>> It will cause a minor inconvenience if you ever want to generate XML via
>> PHP, in that processing instructions will need to be explicitly echoed.
>>
>
> It will cause a major inconvinience, if you ever want to use PHP6.
>

Let's not spread misinformation here. Short tags *will* stay in Php6:
http://www.php.net/~derick/meeting-n...nd-add-php-var

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jebblue wrote:
> On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 08:14:45 -0500, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> jebblue wrote:
>>> Thanks for the question and the answer. My server had that set to On,
>>> just fixed it.
>>>
>>>
>> But you miss the fact you do not WANT it turned on. It will cause
>> problems if you ever have an XML page on your site. I expect the option
>> will be removed in a future release.
>>
>> You should turn it off and use <?php start tags, instead.
>
> I'm confused, I said I fixed it meaning I turned it off, it was set to
> on, that's what to do right?
>

OK, I misunderstood that. I thought you meant you fixed your code to
run with it on.

Just a slight misunderstanding. You are correct to have it off.

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Toby A Inkster wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> But you miss the fact you do not WANT it turned on. It will cause
>> problems if you ever have an XML page on your site.
>
> I think you're overstating the problems slightly.
>
> It will cause a minor inconvenience if you ever want to generate XML via
> PHP, in that processing instructions will need to be explicitly echoed.
>

Toby,

Much more than a "minor inconvenience" if you ever do anything with XML.

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Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> Much more than a "minor inconvenience" if you ever do anything with XML.

Pray explain why. Other than having to write:

<? echo '<?xml version="1.0"?>' ?>

instead of

<?xml version="1.0"?>

(and similar for stylesheets), what other problems are likely to arise
from using shorttags in XML documents that do not arise when using other
methods of delimiting PHP code?

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Toby A Inkster wrote:
> Jerry Stuckle wrote:
>
>> Much more than a "minor inconvenience" if you ever do anything with XML.
>
> Pray explain why. Other than having to write:
>
> <? echo '<?xml version="1.0"?>' ?>
>
> instead of
>
> <?xml version="1.0"?>
>
> (and similar for stylesheets), what other problems are likely to arise
> from using shorttags in XML documents that do not arise when using other
> methods of delimiting PHP code?
>

Because you have to keep remembering to write it. And if you ever load
a package which has XML, you'll have to go through and edit every single
page.

Why do you think even the guys who created PHP recommend against using it?

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