Send a mail without going to spam

Sanders Kaufman:
> It may cost a nickel or two, but sending your mail out through a third
> party SMTP server that uses SSL, instead of your hosting providers
> default mail relay may allow the mail to go through.

Can you tell me where I can get access to one?

Satya:
Does it send without going to spam box? This is for a job as well ;).

Satya wrote:

> U will face other problems as well like attachment etc. I also tried
> very hard whenever I got job for mail and got success after hard work
> if i got struck anywhere. That is useless if you have good free
> package for this.
> so check this: http://satya61229.blogspot.com/2007/...cripts_17.html

Wow Satya - you're in serious spam-mode today.

Jerry Stuckle wrote:

> You are not relaying them, then. You are acting as their mail MTA.

That's what MTA's do - they relay mail.
You can't be an MTA without relaying mail.
If you do - you're a POP.

> And NorTel's intranet servers are not publicly available. Nor are
> GTE's. I don't know about your clients.

That depends on your defintion of "publicly available".

RageARC wrote:
> Sanders Kaufman:
>> It may cost a nickel or two, but sending your mail out through a third
>> party SMTP server that uses SSL, instead of your hosting providers
>> default mail relay may allow the mail to go through.
>
> Can you tell me where I can get access to one?

I can offer the service via Kaufman.net, hosted on APlus.net.
Let's say - $25/mo for the server service.
Then the SSL service will cost $100/yr.
Total $400/yr.

If you're comfortable with that kind of twidgetry, you can set it up
yourself for about the same. If I do it, I can bundle it in with other
services I already use and it costs me about half that.

Ask around - I'm trustworthy, but you have to pay up front.


> Satya:
> Does it send without going to spam box? This is for a job as well ;).

That depends on your definition of "spam box".

LOL $25 + $100 is $400 xD?
I really only need the mail service, no other extra mumbo jumbo.

With spam box I mean that when people receive the mail on their
hotmail, gmail, yahoo, aol, etc. my mails WILL appear on the inbox,
and not on the junk.

Have you tried sending it with no additional headers, have you tried
sending it without a carriage return in the headers (\r)?

On Sep 17, 3:38 pm, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> RageARC wrote:
> > Sanders Kaufman:
> >> It may cost a nickel or two, but sending your mail out through a third
> >> party SMTP server that uses SSL, instead of your hosting providers
> >> default mail relay may allow the mail to go through.
>
> > Can you tell me where I can get access to one?
>
> I can offer the service via Kaufman.net, hosted on APlus.net.
> Let's say - $25/mo for the server service.
> Then the SSL service will cost $100/yr.
> Total $400/yr.
>
> If you're comfortable with that kind of twidgetry, you can set it up
> yourself for about the same. If I do it, I can bundle it in with other
> services I already use and it costs me about half that.
>
> Ask around - I'm trustworthy, but you have to pay up front.
>
> > Satya:
> > Does it send without going to spam box? This is for a job as well ;).
>
> That depends on your definition of "spam box".

RageARC wrote:

> With spam box I mean that when people receive the mail on their
> hotmail, gmail, yahoo, aol, etc. my mails WILL appear on the inbox,
> and not on the junk.

Well, in that case - you should follow the advice that other fellow gave
you.

The most likely reason you're getting bounced is because the message
format is invalid.

You commented that the message isn't even getting as far as their junk
mail box, right? Not that it was getting tagged as spam, but that
Hotmail just black-holed it, right?

That's because just sending an HTML without a text alternative is not
just a spammy thing to do - it's technically busted at the protocol
level. So if one filter doesn't gitcha, the other one will.

Fix that and you'll save yourself a whole lotta hassle.

On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 15:05:50 +0200, RageARC <ragearc@gmail.com> wrote:

> LOL $25 + $100 is $400 xD?

(12 * 25) + 100 is.

You're almost better of with your own VPS though.
--
Rik Wasmus

On 16 Sep, 21:55, Sanders Kaufman <bu...@kaufman.net> wrote:
> RageARC wrote:
> > I've made a script that sends mails, and it sends mails correctly for
> > gMail, but not for Hotmail. What happens is that on Hotmail the mails
> > are not even received! Nor on spam box, nor on inbox.
<snip>
>
> It may cost a nickel or two, but sending your mail out through a third
> party SMTP server that uses SSL, instead of your hosting providers
> default mail relay may allow the mail to go through.

?

Certainly you will have problems sending mail from a known DHCP
address (on Unix/Linux try a null mailer going through a registered
MX) if you have an MX address on the origin already, make sure you've
got a sensible SPF enabled in your DNS.

At the end of the day, though, the Hotmail service is worth exactly
what most users pay for it. And don't expect any help from them as to
why mail gets detected as SPAM.

C.

Thank you all I'm gonna try PHPMailer and then tell you something, ok?