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Old 03-01-2005
Geoff Berrow
 
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I noticed that Message-ID: <kNudnRB-yd8iV77fRVn-oQ@comcast.com> from
Chung Leong contained the following:

>Maybe each of us should
>just grab a question and start a thread. At least that would get us the raw
>info. I can start.


I'm surprised there isn't more interest in this. Do people really want
a FAQ?

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Old 03-01-2005
Chris Hope
 
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Geoff Berrow wrote:

> I noticed that Message-ID: <kNudnRB-yd8iV77fRVn-oQ@comcast.com> from
> Chung Leong contained the following:
>
>>Maybe each of us should
>>just grab a question and start a thread. At least that would get us
>>the raw info. I can start.

>
> I'm surprised there isn't more interest in this. Do people really
> want a FAQ?


I think an FAQ is an excellent idea. I should be able to help and spend
a little time later in the week creating answers for some of the
sections.

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Old 03-01-2005
Philip Ronan
 
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Geoff Berrow wrote:

> I noticed that Message-ID: <kNudnRB-yd8iV77fRVn-oQ@comcast.com> from
> Chung Leong contained the following:
>
>> Maybe each of us should
>> just grab a question and start a thread. At least that would get us the raw
>> info. I can start.

>
> I'm surprised there isn't more interest in this. Do people really want
> a FAQ?


I'm interested too -- I'm just rather busy right now :-(

I'll have a bit more free time later this month. I don't mind hosting the
FAQ either (if you need somewhere to put it).

Phil

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Old 03-01-2005
Gary L. Burnore
 
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:05:38 +0000, Philip Ronan
<invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:

>Geoff Berrow wrote:
>
>> I noticed that Message-ID: <kNudnRB-yd8iV77fRVn-oQ@comcast.com> from
>> Chung Leong contained the following:
>>
>>> Maybe each of us should
>>> just grab a question and start a thread. At least that would get us the raw
>>> info. I can start.

>>
>> I'm surprised there isn't more interest in this. Do people really want
>> a FAQ?

>
>I'm interested too -- I'm just rather busy right now :-(
>
>I'll have a bit more free time later this month. I don't mind hosting the
>FAQ either (if you need somewhere to put it).


Many of us could host such a thing but that's NOT the proper place for
it. Mixing USENet and any other medium (W3, Email, etc) is NOT a good
thing. The FAQ should be maintained by one or more regulars of the
geoup and posted TO the group on a regular basis as it is in most
other comp.* groups.


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Old 03-01-2005
Philip Ronan
 
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Gary L. Burnore wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 09:05:38 +0000, Philip Ronan
> <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> I'll have a bit more free time later this month. I don't mind hosting the
>> FAQ either (if you need somewhere to put it).

>
> Many of us could host such a thing but that's NOT the proper place for
> it. Mixing USENet and any other medium (W3, Email, etc) is NOT a good
> thing. The FAQ should be maintained by one or more regulars of the
> geoup and posted TO the group on a regular basis as it is in most
> other comp.* groups.


OK, OK. It was only a suggestion(!)

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Old 03-01-2005
John Dunlop
 
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Chung Leong wrote:

> I wonder if it wouldn't be a better idea to keep the list in the newgroup
> itself and mirror it on a web site.


I'll go with that. It should be easier for people to
contribute then.

> As you said, the answers needs to be peer-reviewed. And no one person knows
> everything. Maybe each of us should just grab a question and start a thread.
> At least that would get us the raw info. I can start.


Great!

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Old 03-01-2005
R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
 
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John Dunlop wrote:
> > I wonder if it wouldn't be a better idea to keep the list in the

newgroup
> > itself and mirror it on a web site.

>
> I'll go with that. It should be easier for people to
> contribute then.


What about having a single thread (say for example, "FAQ Project" or
so) in which the contributors can modifiy the previous post and add as
a new post (Kinda workaround for Wiki. I'm not sure if phpSt.Jochen is
still here)

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Old 03-01-2005
R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah
 
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Geoff Berrow wrote:
> >Maybe each of us should
> >just grab a question and start a thread. At least that would get us

the raw
> >info. I can start.

>
> I'm surprised there isn't more interest in this. Do people really

want
> a FAQ?


As you know, I had much of interest in this FAQ stuff and I even
compiled few questions and answers. But, I intentionally trashed many
stuffs as most of the questions I've compiled are merely RT*M type
questions and the rest I lost in poor CD.

I'm quite optimistic about the FAQ. But, I think, it shouldn't be
_just_ a mirror of the PHP manual. For example, Chung's answers could
have been shortened to links to manual page (www.php.net/file,
www.php.net/file_get_contents, www.php.net/stream_context_create &
www.php.net/curl).

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Old 03-02-2005
Chung Leong
 
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"R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
news:1109704249.707634.16510@l41g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> I'm quite optimistic about the FAQ. But, I think, it shouldn't be
> _just_ a mirror of the PHP manual. For example, Chung's answers could
> have been shortened to links to manual page (www.php.net/file,
> www.php.net/file_get_contents, www.php.net/stream_context_create &
> www.php.net/curl).


I think if we stick by the criteria of whether a question is in fact
frequently asked, we'll end up with something that's genuinely useful. We
need to avoid going into lecture mode. Instead of a long winded explanation,
just provide enough info so the reader would find the necessary info in the
manual himself. Basically, we should answer the question as though someone
actually asked it here.

I disagree with providing just links. It isn't a friendly way to answer a
question--borderline rude even. We should definitely aim for brevity though.


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Old 03-02-2005
Chris Hope
 
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Chung Leong wrote:

>
> "R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah" <ng4rrjanbiah@rediffmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1109704249.707634.16510@l41g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>> I'm quite optimistic about the FAQ. But, I think, it shouldn't be
>> _just_ a mirror of the PHP manual. For example, Chung's answers could
>> have been shortened to links to manual page (www.php.net/file,
>> www.php.net/file_get_contents, www.php.net/stream_context_create &
>> www.php.net/curl).

>
> I think if we stick by the criteria of whether a question is in fact
> frequently asked, we'll end up with something that's genuinely useful.
> We need to avoid going into lecture mode. Instead of a long winded
> explanation, just provide enough info so the reader would find the
> necessary info in the manual himself. Basically, we should answer the
> question as though someone actually asked it here.
>
> I disagree with providing just links. It isn't a friendly way to
> answer a question--borderline rude even. We should definitely aim for
> brevity though.


I agree with what you say, although I think it's proabably useful to
also include links along with the answer and example to the appropriate
manual pages.

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