Mail Function and Hotmail.com

#1 (**permalink**) 01-14-2005

Hi everybody,,

I've the following proplem:
When I send an email to Hotmail account it:
1. Goes directory to the Junk Email !
OR
2. Goesn't go at all !

My website is in a dedicated server using: Linux 2.4.21, Apache, PHP,
MySQL
and I'm using the following function to send my emails:

==============================
function SendEmail($veFmName, $veFmEmail, $veToName, $veToEmail,
$veSubj, $veBody) {
$varHeader = "MIME-Version: 1.0\r\n";
$varHeader .= "Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1256\r\n";
$varHeader .= "X-Priority: 3\r\n";
$varHeader .= "X-MSMail-Priority: Normal\r\n";
$varHeader .= "From: $veFmName <$veFmEmail>\r\n";
$varHeader .= "Return-Path: $veFmEmail\r\n";
$veBody = "<html><body>" . $veBody . "</body></html>";
return mail($veToEmail, $veSubj, $veBody, $varHeader, "-f" .
$veFmEmail);
}
==============================

It's been now several months I tried to solve this problem, and I've
played with the header many times, but the problem still there; the
email sometimes doesn't go to hotmail OR goes to junk email!
This is an email sample sent from my site:

==============================
X-Gmail-Received: 4e24a44374ea625894407eb9fb89a65de91b36e3
Delivered-To: engrkhalid@gmail.com
Received: by 10.54.32.17 with SMTP id f17cs16564wrf;
Sun, 2 Jan 2005 09:58:18 -0800 (PST)
Received: by 10.54.32.28 with SMTP id f28mr293282wrf;
Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:58:18 -0800 (PST)
Return-Path: <email@mstaml.com>
Received: from server.mstaml.com (server.mstaml.com [69.93.171.50])
by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 66si150386wra;
Sun, 02 Jan 2005 09:58:18 -0800 (PST)
Received-SPF: pass (gmail.com: domain of email@mstaml.com designates
69.93.171.50 as permitted sender)
Received: from nobody by server.mstaml.com with local (Exim 4.43)
id 1Cl9zd-0000IV-5k
for engrkhalid@gmail.com; Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:58:17 +0300
To: engrkhalid@gmail.com
Subject: Ø¯Ø¹ÙˆØ© Ù…Ù† John
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: text/html; charset=windows-1256
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
From: Ù…ÙˆÙ‚Ø¹ Ù…Ø³ØªØ¹Ù…Ù„ <email@mstaml.com>
Message-Id: <E1Cl9zd-0000IV-5k@server.mstaml.com>
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 20:58:17 +0300
X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it
with any abuse report
X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server.mstaml.com
X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gmail.com
X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [99 99] / [47 12]
X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - mstaml.com
X-Source:
X-Source-Args:
X-Source-Dir:
<html><body>Ø§Ù„Ø³Ù„Ø§Ù… Ø¹Ù„ÙŠÙƒÙ…ØŒØŒ ÙŠØ¯Ø¹ÙˆÙƒ
ØµØ¯ÙŠÙ‚Ùƒ John Ù„Ø²ÙŠØ§Ø±Ø© Ù…ÙˆÙ‚Ø¹ Ù…Ø³ØªØ¹Ù…Ù„ Ø¹Ù„Ù‰
Ø¹Ù†ÙˆØ§Ù†: <A
HREF="http://www.mstaml.com">www.mstaml.com</A> 
=========== Ø*Ø±Ø§Ø¬ Ø§Ù„Ø¥Ù†ØªØ±Ù†Øª Ø§Ù„Ø¹Ø±Ø¨ÙŠ
=========== =========== Ù…Ø³ØªØ¹Ù…Ù„
=========== ===================== == Ù…Ø¹ Ø®Ø§Ù„ØµØªØ*ÙŠØ§ØªÙ†Ø§
== ____________________ Ù‡Ø°Ù‡ Ø±Ø³Ø§Ù„Ø© ØªØ±Ø³Ù„ Ø¢Ù„ÙŠØ§Ù‹
Ù…Ù† Ù…ÙˆÙ‚Ø¹ Ù…Ø³ØªØ¹Ù…Ù„... Ø§Ù„Ø±Ø¬Ø§Ø¡ Ø¹Ø¯Ù… Ø§Ù„Ø±Ø¯
Ø¹Ù„ÙŠÙ‡Ø§. 
</body></html>
==============================

Could anyone help me please!

#2 (**permalink**) 01-14-2005

Hello,

on 01/14/2005 12:34 AM engrkhalid@gmail.com said the following:
> Hi everybody,,
>
> I've the following proplem:
> When I send an email to Hotmail account it:
> 1. Goes directory to the Junk Email !
> OR
> 2. Goesn't go at all !
>
> My website is in a dedicated server using: Linux 2.4.21, Apache, PHP,
> MySQL
> and I'm using the following function to send my emails:

That is because you can't send HTML only messages. Real mail clients
always compose HTML messages with an alternative text part. When Hotmail
gets an HTML message that does not have a text part, it assumes
correctly that you are not using a real client, so the chances that the
message is SPAM are great.

You need to use MIME multipart alternative messages with the text and
HTML parts in the same body so the messages are sent like with normal
user mail clients.

If you do not know how to do this, you may want to try this popular MIME
message composing and sending class that follows the necessary standard
requirements to minimize the chances that your messages are confused
with SPAM.

http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage

--

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#3 (**permalink**) 01-14-2005

Manuel Lemos wrote:
>> I've the following proplem:
>> When I send an email to Hotmail account it:
>> 1. Goes directory to the Junk Email !
>> OR
>> 2. Goesn't go at all !
>>
>> My website is in a dedicated server using: Linux 2.4.21, Apache,
>> PHP,
>> MySQL
>> and I'm using the following function to send my emails:
>
> That is because you can't send HTML only messages. Real mail clients
> always compose HTML messages with an alternative text part. When
> Hotmail gets an HTML message that does not have a text part, it
> assumes correctly that you are not using a real client, so the
> chances that the message is SPAM are great.

The stated fact that you *can't* send HTML only messages with real
email clients is false. It is possible, however it is not wise. And
some clients don't allow it (MSOE for example).

However, there seems to be a bit more fundamental problem with the
original poster's message, ie. it doesn't follow the standard... It
doesn't leave an empty line between the headers and body of message.
Of course this can be caused by a copy/paste-operation of the message
contents, and not the cause of the problem. However, if this is the
case, it would explain why the messages sometimes don't arrive at all.

And of course there's the problem that the spamfilter Hotmail uses is
a joke to begin with :)

--
Markku Uttula

#4 (**permalink**) 01-14-2005

engrkhalid@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi everybody,,
>
> I've the following proplem:
> When I send an email to Hotmail account it:
> 1. Goes directory to the Junk Email !
> OR
> 2. Goesn't go at all !

There can be many problems. But, to my knowledge, using PHPMailer
class <http://phpmailer.sourceforge.net/>, you can get rid of Junk
Email problem.

--
<?php echo 'Just another PHP saint'; ?>
Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/

#5 (**permalink**) 01-14-2005

Hello,

on 01/14/2005 05:45 AM Markku Uttula said the following:
>>> I've the following proplem:
>>> When I send an email to Hotmail account it:
>>> 1. Goes directory to the Junk Email !
>>> OR
>>> 2. Goesn't go at all !
>>>
>>> My website is in a dedicated server using: Linux 2.4.21, Apache, PHP,
>>> MySQL
>>> and I'm using the following function to send my emails:
>>
>> That is because you can't send HTML only messages. Real mail clients
>> always compose HTML messages with an alternative text part. When
>> Hotmail gets an HTML message that does not have a text part, it
>> assumes correctly that you are not using a real client, so the
>> chances that the message is SPAM are great.
>
> The stated fact that you *can't* send HTML only messages with real email

You can send HTML messages that way but in the default spam filter level
Hotmail will consider HTML only messages as junk, which is the exact
problem that the original poster reported. This is a know problem
especially with Hotmail. Other free mail services may be more tolerant.

> However, there seems to be a bit more fundamental problem with the
> original poster's message, ie. it doesn't follow the standard... It
> doesn't leave an empty line between the headers and body of message. Of

Actually, if you see his source code he leaves an extra line after the
last header line. The mail() function adds more two line breaks, so his
last line break is not even necessary, but it is not harmful either. So
that is not the problem.

--

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP
http://www.phpclasses.org/

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#6 (**permalink**) 01-15-2005

Hello, and thank you all very much for your replys.

Manuel Lemos, I've tryed the class you told me (clsSendMail.php) which
in this address:
http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/1414.html
But, still,, all the emails go to the junk mail!

R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah, I've tryed your class too, and same problem, all
emails go to the junk mail:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/p..._mirror=aleron
..
..
Could you please help me.

#7 (**permalink**) 01-15-2005

Hello,

on 01/15/2005 01:52 AM engrkhalid@gmail.com said the following:
> Hello, and thank you all very much for your replys.
>
> Manuel Lemos, I've tryed the class you told me (clsSendMail.php) which
> in this address:
> http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/1414.html
> But, still,, all the emails go to the junk mail!

That is not the right class. Check here:

http://www.phpclasses.org/mimemessage

--

Regards,
Manuel Lemos

PHP Classes - Free ready to use OOP components written in PHP
http://www.phpclasses.org/

PHP Reviews - Reviews of PHP books and other products
http://www.phpclasses.org/reviews/

Metastorage - Data object relational mapping layer generator
http://www.meta-language.net/metastorage.html

#8 (**permalink**) 01-15-2005

engrkhalid@gmail.com wrote:
<snip>

> R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah, I've tryed your class too, and same problem,
all
> emails go to the junk mail:
>
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/p..._mirror=aleron
> .
> .
> Could you please help me.

There are more than one reasons. If PHPMailer isn't helpful, your
domain name or from-name/email might be blacklisted.

--
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Email: rrjanbiah-at-Y!com Blog: http://rajeshanbiah.blogspot.com/

#9 (**permalink**) 01-17-2005

Thanks for all your replys.

Manuel Lemos, thank you very much, it is working :)

I have a question please:
all what I need is sending email, so I'll use "email_message.php", is
that right?
and I'm trying to use "test_html_mail_message.php" to send an HTML
email without attachment but I couldn't. Do you have a simple test html
example without attachment.

Thank you.

#10 (**permalink**) 01-22-2005

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