What is  ?

What is this and why does it appear on my web pages:  ?

In case the font doesn't translate into newsgroups, its a funny looking
i with two dots over the top, two greater than signs real close
together, and an upside down question mark.

I have winxp with apache 2 and php5 installed on my computer.

So far, through a process of elimination, I have determined that the
offending funny little marks appear when ever I edit certain included
pages. The only way to get rid of them is to copy and paste the entire
contents of the includes into new documents. But whenever I edit that
document , the marks appear again.

Its a pain in the ass, as I am contantly editing the functions in my
includes.

I wish I knew what exactly is going on, and how to prevent it.

thanks.

pete

"red" <groups@reenie.org> wrote in message
news:J_bWc.449169$165.71721@news.easynews.com...
> What is this and why does it appear on my web pages:  ?
>
> In case the font doesn't translate into newsgroups, its a funny looking
> i with two dots over the top, two greater than signs real close
> together, and an upside down question mark.
>
> I have winxp with apache 2 and php5 installed on my computer.
>
> So far, through a process of elimination, I have determined that the
> offending funny little marks appear when ever I edit certain included
> pages. The only way to get rid of them is to copy and paste the entire
> contents of the includes into new documents. But whenever I edit that
> document , the marks appear again.
>
> Its a pain in the ass, as I am contantly editing the functions in my
> includes.
>
> I wish I knew what exactly is going on, and how to prevent it.
>
> thanks.
>
> pete

Ha ha, that is the infamous ZWNBSP--Zero Width Non-Breaking Space. Notepad
will automatically add this Unicode character (which you can't see, as it
has no width) at the beginning of files that are saved as UTF-8.

The moral of the story is 'get a real text editor.'

Chung Leong wrote:
> "red" <groups@reenie.org> wrote in message
> news:J_bWc.449169$165.71721@news.easynews.com...
>
>>What is this and why does it appear on my web pages:  ?
>>
>>In case the font doesn't translate into newsgroups, its a funny looking
>> i with two dots over the top, two greater than signs real close
>>together, and an upside down question mark.
>>
>>I have winxp with apache 2 and php5 installed on my computer.
>>
>>So far, through a process of elimination, I have determined that the
>>offending funny little marks appear when ever I edit certain included
>>pages. The only way to get rid of them is to copy and paste the entire
>>contents of the includes into new documents. But whenever I edit that
>>document , the marks appear again.
>>
>>Its a pain in the ass, as I am contantly editing the functions in my
>>includes.
>>
>>I wish I knew what exactly is going on, and how to prevent it.
>>
>>thanks.
>>
>>pete
>
>
> Ha ha, that is the infamous ZWNBSP--Zero Width Non-Breaking Space. Notepad
> will automatically add this Unicode character (which you can't see, as it
> has no width) at the beginning of files that are saved as UTF-8.
>
> The moral of the story is 'get a real text editor.'
>
>
I only have the problem in Ultraedit. I thought that's as real as it
gets. I don't see the charactars in Ultraedit, but if I open the file in
a browser, I can see them there. If I open the file in Notepad, I can
see them and erase them. but they come back the next time I open them in
Ultra edit.

anyway, you pointed me in the right direction. In ultraedits file menu
is a thing called conversion, and I clicked on UTF-8 and it seems to
have done the trick. thanks.

red


red

red wrote:
>
> anyway, you pointed me in the right direction. In ultraedits file menu
> is a thing called conversion, and I clicked on UTF-8 and it seems to
> have done the trick. thanks.
>
> red
>
>
I meant UTF-8 to ansi

red

red <groups@reenie.org> wrote in message news:<J_bWc.449169$165.71721@news.easynews.com>...
> What is this and why does it appear on my web pages:  ?
>

Hi.
It's an UTF8 header. Don't use notepad or other dummy soft to write
your scripts. You have to use other software and set in preferences
'not to inlude utf header'. This solution helped in my case. It's
really bad thing, because '' appears on top of all php scripts
which causes output to be sent before all other data. You then cannot
use header() and session() functions, which uses own header data and
over that this '' looks ugly ;)


Greetings,
Bartlomiej Zdanowski
PHP programmer
INFO-TRADE Ltd.
www.info-trade.pl