I can't see my Web site from Internet Explorer because I use LINUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Help,

I love linux, but i'm a major Web developer, but most my visitors use
Internet Explorer. I cant' run Internet Explorer on linux. How the hell do
I make sure everything looks ok on Internet Explorer? Crapo.

Nick

If you use all the right rules and make sure everything is standard, it
should work. But in saying that, Ie throw's all the rules out the
window. From my experience, it's the other browsers that you need to
check with. IE will normally work, if you get it working on the others.

to Run IE you have to run M$. You may aswell do a dual boot or look at
VMware. You can't run one without the other, IE is so interwoven within
Windows.



Mudge wrote:

>Help,
>
>I love linux, but i'm a major Web developer, but most my visitors use
>Internet Explorer. I cant' run Internet Explorer on linux. How the hell do
>I make sure everything looks ok on Internet Explorer? Crapo.
>
>Nick
>
>

Mudge wrote:
> Help,
>
> I love linux, but i'm a major Web developer, but most my visitors use
> Internet Explorer. I cant' run Internet Explorer on linux. How the hell do
> I make sure everything looks ok on Internet Explorer? Crapo.
>
> Nick

not recently i learn that you can use several different tools to run
windows app's on Linux :

1. "Not Emulators" : WINE, Crossover, Cedega
2. Virtual Machine : VMWare, Bochs
3. Semi Virtual Machine : win4lin
4. .NET apps using MONO
5. Qemu : http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/

also i think you will find these links a helpful reading:

http://www.efuse.com/Publish/testing...elpFromFriends
http://www.anybrowser.org/

maxim.

Hi

Go get a machine with the Micro$oft virus on it. Comes with IE. Do the
updates. If you don't want to spend a little time loading the windoz
OS, go to you local computer store and look at the low end pentII or
III's. $100 up if you dicker. I have an old dell Pent, 128Meg 200Mhz (
a real burner, isn't it ) just for this purpose. The Dell has Netscape,
IE and Mozaic. The Mac finally broke and I don't see the need anymore.

If you do standard stuff with standard attributes, all browser will
render your stuff; some differently, but it will show up all the same.
If you are CSS'n, that is a different matter and it is a good idea to
give your page a looksee

Mudge wrote:
> Help,
>
> I love linux, but i'm a major Web developer, but most my visitors use
> Internet Explorer. I cant' run Internet Explorer on linux. How the hell do
> I make sure everything looks ok on Internet Explorer? Crapo.
>
> Nick

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Mudge wrote:
>
> How the hell do I make sure everything looks ok on
> Internet Explorer?

You do not. Nor should you. What you should do is ensure that your work
complies with web standards: CSS2, XHTML 1.0 (or 1.1), and ECMA-262.

bblackmoor
2004-08-07

I noticed that Message-ID: <2nk8oiF1qpo4U1@uni-berlin.de> from Brandon
Blackmoor contained the following:

>You do not. Nor should you. What you should do is ensure that your work
>complies with web standards: CSS2, XHTML 1.0 (or 1.1), and ECMA-262.

Sometimes it's not worth the hassle with the client, who just wants it
to work on /his/ setup which, as far as he is concerned, is the same as
the rest of the world.

--
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Geoff Berrow wrote:

> I noticed that Message-ID: <2nk8oiF1qpo4U1@uni-berlin.de> from Brandon
> Blackmoor contained the following:
>
>>You do not. Nor should you. What you should do is ensure that your work
>>complies with web standards: CSS2, XHTML 1.0 (or 1.1), and ECMA-262.
>
> Sometimes it's not worth the hassle with the client, who just wants it
> to work on /his/ setup which, as far as he is concerned, is the same as
> the rest of the world.
>


Well, aren't most people on the Internet using IE? and then maybe the
mozilla browsers and then opera?


So, it seems like it mostly just needs to work on IE and then mozilla,
netscapte and opera.

What do you think?

Ian.H wrote:

>
> Code for the _standards_ (which happens to be more Mozilla etc based
> than anything IE may throw out), _then_ consider work arounds for
> IE.. but just because a lot of people use it (only because it's been
> forced upon people) doesn't make it right.
>
I agree it isn't right, and where I can I try to avoid issues where my
coding has to leave the w3c standards path in favour of IE (not that
mozilla, opera, et all are all fully compliant, but agreed, more so than
IE), but when push comes to shove it just is the way things are, and 90% of
people use IE. Plenty of examples of superior technical solutions losing out
because of stubornness and neglect of marketing and numbers.

I will always have atleast one winbox around when testing stuff that goes
public. I would not even rely on WINE and such. I know, I am stubborn too
:-) But another advantage of an old windoze box is I get to see the
performance and such. And right now I work on an XP box because of other
stuff I regularly use.

Well, to each his own I guess. But let's not argue too much about IE being
'nonstandard'. 90% is pretty much standard I'd say.
My .02$
Pjotr

>> Sometimes it's not worth the hassle with the client, who just wants it
>> to work on /his/ setup which, as far as he is concerned, is the same as
>> the rest of the world.
>>
>
>
>Well, aren't most people on the Internet using IE? and then maybe the
>mozilla browsers and then opera?

Which version of IE? Some web developers complain that there
is a much larger difference between IE and IE than, say, between
Mozilla and Opera, or even between Mozilla and IE.

Only testing with the latest 6 versions of IE may turn out to be a
big mistake, as you may be leaving out more than half the clients
surfing the web.

Gordon L. Burditt

"Pjotr Wedersteers" <x33159@westerterp.com> wrote in message
news:4115446a$0$37789$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl...
> I agree it isn't right, and where I can I try to avoid issues where my
> coding has to leave the w3c standards path in favour of IE (not that
> mozilla, opera, et all are all fully compliant, but agreed, more so than
> IE), but when push comes to shove it just is the way things are, and 90%
of
> people use IE. Plenty of examples of superior technical solutions losing
out
> because of stubornness and neglect of marketing and numbers.

In the case of Mozilla we have a case of a more politically correct solution
losing out to a more commercially viable one. Kinda like a co-op coffeeshop
getting crushed by Starbucks.