Re: URLing schemes and elegance

anytime I see "index.php" or "index.html" in a URL I think their web
guy must be a doofus.
But specific to your question.. I'm using something like:
http://talks.php.net/?page=Web+Services

and back to my peeve.. what's with urls like
/information/information.html
/calendar/calendar.html
/contact-us/contact-us.html
etc..
morons!

ng4rrjanbiah@rediffmail.com (R. Rajesh Jeba Anbiah) wrote in message news:<abc4d8b8.0406220312.385015b5@posting.google. com>...
> Bit OT, but PHP oriented style issue...
>
> Just curious to know how many of you really use the URLs like
> http://talks.php.net/index.php/Web+Services
> And how many of you really liked or found it elegant? TIA

"Brad Kent" <bkfake-google@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7ad3d45b.0406221221.20d5d0c6@posting.google.c om...
> anytime I see "index.php" or "index.html" in a URL I think their web
> guy must be a doofus.
> But specific to your question.. I'm using something like:
> http://talks.php.net/?page=Web+Services
>
> and back to my peeve.. what's with urls like
> /information/information.html
> /calendar/calendar.html
> /contact-us/contact-us.html
> etc..
> morons!

Err, have you developed in a team before? Keeping the filename in the URL,
as well as using unique names for files, make it easier for others to
understand your code. If there's a problem in a page, all they have to do is
take quick glance at the URL to find the right file to examine.

Filtering all page requests through a single script is stupid. You are
basically just replicating what the web server does, which is resolving a
URL to the correct page. At the same time you create a single point of
failure.

bkfake-google@yahoo.com (Brad Kent) wrote in message news:<7ad3d45b.0406221221.20d5d0c6@posting.google. com>...
> anytime I see "index.php" or "index.html" in a URL I think their web
> guy must be a doofus.
> But specific to your question.. I'm using something like:
> http://talks.php.net/?page=Web+Services
>
> and back to my peeve.. what's with urls like
> /information/information.html
> /calendar/calendar.html
> /contact-us/contact-us.html
> etc..
> morons!

Thanks for your comments. I see your points. URLs like
/information/information.html are becoming popular because of some SEO
papers.

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"Chung Leong" <chernyshevsky@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<2--dnRQp_OboLEXdRVn-gg@comcast.com>...
> "Brad Kent" <bkfake-google@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:7ad3d45b.0406221221.20d5d0c6@posting.google.c om...
> > anytime I see "index.php" or "index.html" in a URL I think their web
> > guy must be a doofus.
> > But specific to your question.. I'm using something like:
> > http://talks.php.net/?page=Web+Services
> >
> > and back to my peeve.. what's with urls like
> > /information/information.html
> > /calendar/calendar.html
> > /contact-us/contact-us.html
> > etc..
> > morons!
>
> Err, have you developed in a team before? Keeping the filename in the URL,
> as well as using unique names for files, make it easier for others to
> understand your code. If there's a problem in a page, all they have to do is
> take quick glance at the URL to find the right file to examine.
>
> Filtering all page requests through a single script is stupid. You are
> basically just replicating what the web server does, which is resolving a
> URL to the correct page. At the same time you create a single point of
> failure.


having unique filenames makes perfect sense.. but since they're
unique what's with all the separate dir names of the same name holding
a single html file?
/path/information.html
/path/calendar.html
/path/contact-us.html
works just as well.
part of the problem I see with sites using my peeve is that they tend
to bork up on their navigation as well.. forgetting to use a
relative or absolute path to get to the other pages.
here's a site I just visited this morning that illustrates many of
these peeves/issues... http://www.fullmoonrun.com/
* a directory for each page..
* including "index.php" in their urls.
* not knowing how to link to the other pages once they're in their
directory mess

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 13:21:28 -0700, Brad Kent wrote:

> and back to my peeve.. what's with urls like /information/information.html
> /calendar/calendar.html
> /contact-us/contact-us.html
> etc..
> morons!

Having worked for an online mall, we were told that such repetition is one
way to force a higher ranking in some search engines. Some designers at
that mall likewise have paragraphs full of key words, using CSS to hide
this nonsense from the end user.

La'ie Techie