how PHP is batter?

Andrei wrote:
> I saw there is a free version of Studio, but I think it's for
> students... You cannot go build a corporate project with it I think...
>

They're just "designed" for students and hobbyists (i.e. they stipped
out the cool stuff), but you can use 'em for whatever.


From the faq: http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/support/faq/

*4.* *Can I use Express Editions for commercial use?*



Yes, there are no licensing restrictions for applications built using
the Express Editions.



jon

Andrei wrote:
> Stut wrote:
>> Andrei wrote:
>>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
>>>>
>>>> how PHP is batter?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy stuff to
>>> develop in it.
>> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net applications.
>>
>> And if you feel the need for a nice IDE, Visual Studio Web Developer
>> Express Edition is available for free...
>>
>> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/
>>
>> Stop the FUD!
>>
>> -Stut
>>
> I saw there is a free version of Studio, but I think it's for
> students... You cannot go build a corporate project with it I think...

More FUD. Go read the licence before claiming to know what it says!

-Stut

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On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote:

> Andrei wrote:
>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
>>>
>>> how PHP is batter?
>>>
>>> .
>>>
>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy stuff to
>> develop in it.
>
> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net applications.
>

Ummm... Windows?



;)

Ed

Stut wrote:
> Andrei wrote:
>> I saw there is a free version of Studio, but I think it's for
>> students... You cannot go build a corporate project with it I think...
>
> More FUD. Go read the licence before claiming to know what it says!
>
> -Stut
>
I said *I think* didn't know for sure. And anyway I would read the bla
bla for something I don't need.

This is an important debate and I would hope to see a more lively
discussion. Many of us have to validate our choices and our employers
don't care about anti-microsoft and anti-corporation arguments (I do
believe the open-source versus closed-source argument is a valid one to
make to your employers). I'm sure this question has come up many times
on this board (and countless others), which might be why it is such a
volatile topic.

Though, this has been an ongoing debate for many years... the debate is
very fluid. Arguments made in the past, like ASP.NET only works on IIS,
might not be valid today. Much of the literature out there does not
reflect this. I would like to offer this to the debate, benchmarks
showing PHP to run faster:


http://www.wrensoft.com/zoom/benchmarks.html


I thought this was a very interesting find, as ASP.NET is a compiled
language. Theoretically, this would give ASP.NET an advantage as far as
speed is concerned. Does anyone else have other evidence where ASP.NET
has been shown to run faster? I don't think the benchmark I have given
is very valid.

Thanks,
Adam



Edward Vermillion wrote:

>
> On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote:
>
>> Andrei wrote:
>>
>>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>>>
>>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
>>>>
>>>> how PHP is batter?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy stuff to
>>> develop in it.
>>
>>
>> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net applications.
>>
>
> Ummm... Windows?
>
>
>
> ;)
>
> Ed
>

Edward Vermillion wrote:
>
> On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote:
>
>> Andrei wrote:
>>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
>>>>
>>>> how PHP is batter?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy stuff to
>>> develop in it.
>>
>> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net applications.
>>
>
> Ummm... Windows?
>
> ;)

Indeed. I apologise for that omission since that was true in the early
days, but now even that is not required.

-Stut

--
http://stut.net/

At 3:53 PM +0500 7/3/07, Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>ASP.net VS PHP?
>
>how PHP is batter?

You take a little flour, milk, egg and mix. Liberally coat the php
and then fry. It taste much better than asp and you don't have to
risk your life chasing it down.

Cheers,

tedd

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On 7/3/07, Stut <stuttle@gmail.com> wrote:
> Edward Vermillion wrote:
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote:
> >
> >> Andrei wrote:
> >>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
> >>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
> >>>>
> >>>> how PHP is batter?
> >>>>
> >>>> .
> >>>>
> >>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy stuff to
> >>> develop in it.
> >>
> >> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net applications.
> >>
> >
> > Ummm... Windows?
> >
> > ;)
>
> Indeed. I apologise for that omission since that was true in the early
> days, but now even that is not required.
>
> -Stut
>

Nope, With the use of Mono & mod_mono you can run ASP.NET application
in Apache on a Unix box :)

Tijnema

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Edward Vermillion wrote:
>
> On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote:
>
>> Andrei wrote:
>>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
>>>>
>>>> how PHP is batter?
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy stuff to
>>> develop in it.
>>
>> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net applications.
>>
>
> Ummm... Windows?

For which part?

The server? I may be wrong, but can't this be done under Apache now?
Isn't there a module for this?

Writing ASP? Basic vi, joe, emacs, mg, etc... they work just fine.

>
>
>
> ;)
>
> Ed
>


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On Jul 3, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Jim Lucas wrote:

> Edward Vermillion wrote:
>> On Jul 3, 2007, at 8:52 AM, Stut wrote:
>>> Andrei wrote:
>>>> Muhammad Hassan Samee wrote:
>>>>> ASP.net VS PHP?
>>>>>
>>>>> how PHP is batter?
>>>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>> In short words it's not Micro$oft and you don't need to buy
>>>> stuff to
>>>> develop in it.
>>>
>>> You have never needed to buy anything to develop ASP.net
>>> applications.
>>>
>> Ummm... Windows?
>
> For which part?
>
> The server? I may be wrong, but can't this be done under Apache now?
> Isn't there a module for this?
>
> Writing ASP? Basic vi, joe, emacs, mg, etc... they work just fine.
>

Yeah, I was referring to the server.

I wasn't aware that ASP could live outside of the MS bubble. Although
I have heard of the mono(?) project to get an open source equivalent
of .net, I just hadn't heard of anyone writing an ASP processor for
apache. Ewww....

Ed