This is a discussion on SSH with authentication and no privacy within the OpenSSH Development forums, part of the Networking and Network Related category; Previous threads have discussed the now deprecated NONE cipher and the rationale for its removal. Recent posts on FCC compliance ...
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Previous threads have discussed the now deprecated NONE cipher and the
rationale for its removal. Recent posts on FCC compliance indicate the usefulness of authentication without privacy for packet radio. I also find this useful for transfers between IPsec protected endpoints. Authentication is then useful for user administration/privileges but encryption is not necessary given the IPsec transport. Is there a compromise that would be acceptable to the ssh maintainers which provides an authenticated ssh mode without privacy? IPsec has long been able to support such a mode (AH without ESP) and there is a legitimate need as mentioned before. Concern for accidental disclosure due to user error or misconfiguration is legitimate. Would the following changes be acceptable? - Require an ssh[d]_config option which explicitly allows authentication without privacy. This would be defaulted to off / commented in the example config files. - Require an ssh/scp/* flag on command line to enable authentication without privacy (in addition to config file approval). HPN uses the '-z' option. - When used in this mode a message would be printed to stderr indicating the lack of privacy. HPN prints a 'WARNING: ENABLED NULL CIPHER' for scp but not ssh. Perhaps 'WARNING: privacy is disabled, plaintext mode selected' would be more explanatory. I would be willing to work on such a patch if this would address maintainer concerns about unintended disclosure while providing the useful feature of authentication without privacy. Best regards, _______________________________________________ openssh-unix-dev mailing list openssh-unix-dev@mindrot.org http://www.mindrot.org/mailman/listi...enssh-unix-dev |