Scrypt - Linux crypting tool

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Old 07-26-2005
jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com
 
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Stachu 'Dozzie' K. a écrit :

> > Uh...where did i tell that it was secure ?

>
> When you told that "it should be enough for non-expert user".
>


I'm right, a non-expert user will never try break this cipher. I can
write in Chinese to protect some text against a French, but not against
a Chinese. I'm sure your OS is not as secure as NSA's most secure
system, but do you need it ? Ain't your OS secure enough for your use ?
(i hope...) And i'm sure your house is not as secure as the best
anti-atomic bunker...it depends of who your want to protect your data
from.

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Old 07-26-2005
jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com
 
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Well i hope that mcrypt is better than my scrypt...as they claim to be
a replacement for the old crypt command...

My code is GPL too...

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Old 07-26-2005
Stachu 'Dozzie' K.
 
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On 26.07.2005, jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com <jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Stachu 'Dozzie' K. a écrit :
>
>> > Uh...where did i tell that it was secure ?

>>
>> When you told that "it should be enough for non-expert user".
>>

>
> I'm right, a non-expert user will never try break this cipher.


You're wrong. Someone might try to break this cipher used by non-expert
user.

> I can
> write in Chinese to protect some text against a French, but not against
> a Chinese.


Do you have certainty that no French knows Chinese?

> I'm sure your OS is not as secure as NSA's most secure
> system, but do you need it ?


Probably not, but firewall, patched daemons, good passwords policy and
one time passwords are quite much as for simple desktop.

> Ain't your OS secure enough for your use ?
> (i hope...) And i'm sure your house is not as secure as the best
> anti-atomic bunker...it depends of who your want to protect your data
> from.


Right, but some user can take your cipher and use it for storing his/her
credit card number or something similarly valuable.

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Old 07-27-2005
Rowdy Yates
 
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jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com wrote in news:1122361782.187549.259280
@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

>
> Well i hope that mcrypt is better than my scrypt...as they claim to be
> a replacement for the old crypt command...
>
> My code is GPL too...
>


hello. i encrypted my hard drive with you program. now my computer will not
boot. how can i get into my computer? what should i do?

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Old 07-27-2005
jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com
 
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1. No encrypted hard drive can boot.
2. It's not funny.
3. RTFM.

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Old 07-28-2005
Kristian Thy
 
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Quoth jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com:
> 1. No encrypted hard drive can boot.
> 2. It's not funny.
> 3. RTFM.


I thought your program was for the "non-expert user"? That doesn't sound
very user-friendly to me.

\\kristian
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more is needed, except courage. From the moment this truth had dawned
upon me - a truth as clear as the light of the sun - I longed to dare,
and I committed murder."
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Old 07-29-2005
Rowdy Yates
 
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Kristian Thy <thy@itu.dk> wrote in news:42e952b2$0$18649$14726298
@news.sunsite.dk:

> Quoth jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com:
>> 1. No encrypted hard drive can boot.


hmm.. i am not sure if you are correct. i visit some closed security
forums -- i am pretty sure i saw a few folks trading thoughts and
opinions on crypto products that sound like they are encrypting the
entire data drives not just folder.

>> 2. It's not funny.


it actually is very funny. you will be surprized how many people out
there are going to encypt themselves out of their own data. about as many
as manage to lock themselves out of their own cars.

>> 3. RTFM.


correction!! i think you mean ROTFLMAO!!

>
> I thought your program was for the "non-expert user"? That doesn't

sound
> very user-friendly to me.
>
> \\kristian


this fellow reminds me of my cousin. a self taught programmer with lots
and lots of dedication. he would also sometimes come up with some great
ideas for programs. but his comcept of what is user friendly in the real
world was very far removed from earth and belonged in some galaxy far far
away.

:-)

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Old 07-29-2005
Joachim Schipper
 
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Rowdy Yates <rowdy.yates@private.com> wrote:
> Kristian Thy <thy@itu.dk> wrote in news:42e952b2$0$18649$14726298
> @news.sunsite.dk:
>
>> Quoth jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com:
>>> 1. No encrypted hard drive can boot.

>
> hmm.. i am not sure if you are correct. i visit some closed security
> forums -- i am pretty sure i saw a few folks trading thoughts and
> opinions on crypto products that sound like they are encrypting the
> entire data drives not just folder.


At the very least, it's possible to load a minimal kernel from a floppy
or small uncrypted portion of the disk, and have (the rest of) the disk
crypted - including the root filesystem.

I'm not sure if Windows can do this, but Linux can, and since FreeBSD
also has an encrypted block device, FreeBSD should too (and OpenBSD
might, and NetBSD, and ...)

Joachim
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Old 07-29-2005
jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com
 
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Rowdy Yates a écrit :

> Kristian Thy <thy@itu.dk> wrote in news:42e952b2$0$18649$14726298
> @news.sunsite.dk:
>
> > Quoth jeanphilippe.aumasson@gmail.com:
> >> 1. No encrypted hard drive can boot.

>
> hmm.. i am not sure if you are correct. i visit some closed security
> forums -- i am pretty sure i saw a few folks trading thoughts and
> opinions on crypto products that sound like they are encrypting the
> entire data drives not just folder.


Yes some encrypted file systems exist...but what i meat is that you
cannot boot with the whole hd encrypted with a tool like cryp, mcrypt,
ccrypt, etc.

>
> >> 2. It's not funny.

>
> it actually is very funny. you will be surprized how many people out
> there are going to encypt themselves out of their own data. about as many
> as manage to lock themselves out of their own cars.
>
> >> 3. RTFM.

>
> correction!! i think you mean ROTFLMAO!!
>


euh.. ?

> >
> > I thought your program was for the "non-expert user"? That doesn't

> sound
> > very user-friendly to me.
> >
> > \\kristian



a non expert has a brain...i meant someone who is not expert in
cryptology, with high needs of security..

>
> this fellow reminds me of my cousin. a self taught programmer with lots
> and lots of dedication. he would also sometimes come up with some great
> ideas for programs. but his comcept of what is user friendly in the real
> world was very far removed from earth and belonged in some galaxy far far
> away.
>
> :-)
>
> --
> Rowdy Yates, MCNGP #39
> http://www.mcngp.com/
> http://profiles.yahoo.com/rowdy_yates_mcngp


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