This is a discussion on ssh scanner branching out within the Linux Security forums, part of the System Security and Security Related category; From my latest logs: Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user guest from ... Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user informix from ... ...
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From my latest logs:
Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user guest from ... Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user informix from ... Illegal user oracle9 from ... Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user gateway from ... Illegal user webadmin from ... Illegal user webadmin from ... Illegal user postgres from ... Illegal user webadmin from ... Illegal user oracle from ... Illegal user postgres from ... Illegal user webadmin from ... I guess test, user, and admin got too boring. |
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Allen Kistler <ackistler@oohay.moc> wrote in news:wwX9d.5258$5b1.3761
@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com: > From my latest logs: > > Illegal user oracle from ... > Illegal user guest from ... > > I guess test, user, and admin got too boring. Does the traceroute show something like hanaro.com and hananet.net in the path? I had those come up when I was checking a friends logs on a very concentrated SSH effort. I thought they looked familiar and in finally found them in an email where I had traced a particularly well written "login and update your account info" mailings. It stuck in my head because the efforts are so different. Social engineering vs scripted default probes. The probed site does have mysql running and the domain would give the impression of having personal info on it. Im thinking the common factor might be along those lines. Gandalf Parker -- Be sure to post this "protected by" sign in your yard so that anyone pretending to be official will know who to pretend to be. |
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On 2004-10-09, Allen Kistler <ackistler@oohay.moc> wrote:
> From my latest logs: > > Illegal user oracle from ... > Illegal user guest from ... > Illegal user oracle from ... > Illegal user informix from ... > Illegal user oracle9 from ... > Illegal user oracle from ... > Illegal user oracle from ... > Illegal user gateway from ... > Illegal user webadmin from ... > Illegal user webadmin from ... > Illegal user postgres from ... > Illegal user webadmin from ... > Illegal user oracle from ... > Illegal user postgres from ... > Illegal user webadmin from ... > > I guess test, user, and admin got too boring. I'm also seeing more personal names: Failed password for illegal user adam Failed password for illegal user alan Failed password for illegal user frank Failed password for illegal user george Failed password for illegal user henry Failed password for illegal user matt Failed password for illegal user patrick Failed password for illegal user pamela Failed password for illegal user jane as well as some odd ones: Failed password for illegal user cip52 Failed password for illegal user cip51 Interestingly, nmap seems to think most of these are from linux machines. Usually, I just ignore them, but when they insist on hammering my machine dozens of times, I track them down and report them to their upstream provider. This may or may not be effective, but I try anyway; I've gotten several responses that the admins of the offending machines have been informed and the machines taken off-line. -- -John (john@os2.dhs.org) |
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John Thompson <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> wrote in
news:slrncmitqr.uob.john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org: > This may or may not be effective, but I try anyway; I've gotten > several responses that the admins of the offending machines have been > informed and the machines taken off-line. When I worked for an ISP it was VERY effective when someone sent us an email like that. If they included logs which made it clear where to watch and what to watch for, then I could quickly confirm it and delete that user in a heartbeat. They werent worth $20/month Gandalf Parker |
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>> This may or may not be effective, but I try anyway; I've gotten
>> several responses that the admins of the offending machines have been >> informed and the machines taken off-line. >When I worked for an ISP it was VERY effective when someone sent us an >email like that. If they included logs which made it clear where to watch >and what to watch for, then I could quickly confirm it and delete that user >in a heartbeat. They werent worth $20/month >Gandalf Parker If the ISP client is a Linux machine, it may well be a machine that the cracker/spammer is using personally (powerful script languages, expect usually works, ie lots of tools). But a lot of attacks come from cracked no-security windows machines where the user that owns the ISP account doesn't have a clue that an attack is being mounted in the background from his/her machine. Taking the machine permanently off-line still works, of course, but the first type of user is culpable while the second type may be merely not technically proficient or under-informed by the OS vendor. Regards, Clayton Weaver <mailto: cgweav@aol.com> "Everyone is ignorant, just about different things." Will Rogers |
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cgweav@aol.com (Clayton Weaver) wrote in
news:20041012014221.13228.00001668@mb-m12.aol.com: > Taking the machine permanently off-line still works, of course, but > the first type of user is culpable while the second type > may be merely not technically proficient > or under-informed by the OS vendor. Valid points of course. Often I could tell from logs if it was automated or not. And often in the most glaring cases we didnt even get a call asking us why it got locked out. It didnt really matter either way. The account got locked anyway. Later we could try and figure out why it happened and maybe fix it. In any case, the logic for the lock held true. It wasnt worth $20/month to do it any other way. Gandalf Parker |
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On 2004-10-12, Clayton Weaver <cgweav@aol.com> wrote:
> If the ISP client is a Linux machine, > it may well be a machine that the > cracker/spammer is using personally > (powerful script languages, expect > usually works, ie lots of tools). Most of the ssh scans I've checked with nmap appear to be coming from linux boxes. The similarity of the attacks (e.g. same sequence of user names attempted) from diverse IP addresses leads me to suspect that these boxes were rooted somehow and automated scripts left to run on them. -- -John (john@os2.dhs.org) |
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On 2004-10-12, John Thompson <john@starfleet.os2.dhs.org> wrote:
> On 2004-10-12, Clayton Weaver <cgweav@aol.com> wrote: > >> If the ISP client is a Linux machine, >> it may well be a machine that the >> cracker/spammer is using personally >> (powerful script languages, expect >> usually works, ie lots of tools). > > Most of the ssh scans I've checked with nmap appear to be coming from > linux boxes. The similarity of the attacks (e.g. same sequence of user > names attempted) from diverse IP addresses leads me to suspect that these > boxes were rooted somehow and automated scripts left to run on them. There's a couple different tools to do this, I've seen them. One, is circulated as a C source to which you could add any user name you wanted, or increase the password list, or whatever. Since, by definition, script kiddies can't program, these beefed-up attacks are less common. The other ones are circulating pre-compiled. It has several components, and is driven by shell scripts. You just run the script, and it scans massive blocks looking for weak accounts with the default user-ids/passwd's you see. When it hits, it writes the ip address into a file. Likely, someone lets this go overnight, then gets up in the morning and checks the file. I've seen some cases where the account was accessed by the scanner agent (which got in, then exitted) were never touched again. This is the automated part you usually see in your logs. Once that file gets checked, now the attacker is visiting you personally. Typical downloads are the orginal ssh-attack tool (to continue), irc bots & bouncers, and maybe a rootkit now and then. There's been logfiles saved of this stuff, and you can read about it on sites like honeynet.org. Many times the attackers made no effort to cover their tracks, and lacked basic unix command line skills (lots of typo's in the shell log files. ) -- --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) --- +++ killed by SIGSEGV +++ |
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jayjwa <jayjwa@nowhere.org> wrote in
news:slrncp928d.e2h.jayjwa@atr2.ath.cx: > Once that file gets checked, now the attacker is visiting you > personally. Typical downloads are the orginal ssh-attack tool (to > continue), irc bots & bouncers, and maybe a rootkit now and then. > There's been logfiles saved of this stuff, and you can read about it > on sites like honeynet.org. Many times the attackers made no effort to > cover their tracks, and lacked basic unix command line skills (lots of > typo's in the shell log files. ) Thats what Ive seen in alot of my forensics. I feel that there is a lot of emphasis on prevention (locking the doors) and not enough on detection AFTER entry (watchdogs). Locks to keep people out are great but people should realize thats a back and forth game. They do find ways to slip in, and then someone posts another thing to watch for and block. But during that gap SOME of us will get hit. Heehee. I have seen ALOT of cases where they successfully ran a script to find a box, then managed to run a script to get in, then followed a string of commands to download/install something to make automatic use of the box. And then spent days trying to figure out why commands like "dir" didnt work. Ive gotten to where I prefer to sanitize a box instead of destroy/reload. In fact, Ive seen on a number of clients boxes where the invasion made changes which actually strengthened the box against the same attack happening twice (skiddies are paranoid about other skiddies) so after killing backdoors Ive left some of the changes in place. By the way; IRC bots and bouncers are an interesting subculture. They make use of the fact that they can get in but dont know what to do with it once they have it. They are often "collectors". The bouncers prove ownership (have gained entry) to a box. Then they sit in IRC and trade them like trading cards. "I will give you 2 .edu and 3 .com for one .mil" Gandalf Parker |