Linux vs Windows on Virii - Questions

"Juhana Siren" <Juhana.Siren@oulu.fi> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.
>
> N'est-ce pas? :)

right, i guess..haha! mihi videtur iustum
but we're really going way off-topic here :)) byeee
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"Valerio M" <chiedi@loa.me> writes:

> i'm not so sure about this discussion (virus, i 2nd declension with not much
> to say about, since authors like Cicero, T.Livius use it as such), i think
> it's "viri": simple as that. but that doesn't really matter since linux is
> still virus-free :))

*IF* we were speaking Latin. But we're not. Right?

The word has been adopted from Latin to English. So it works like an
English word.

Another example: My native language is Finnish. The Finnish word
"sauna" has been adopted to many languages, including English. Finnish
grammar works by appending stuff to the root of the word, so there's
no one plain vanilla plural form.

If you used "sauna" like some people insist on using "virus", you'd
have to say: "They have several saunoja at the resort", or "I just
came saunasta" (from sauna), or "We have two saunaa: one at home and
one at the summer house." Looks silly, doesn't it? (Besides, English
speakers wouldn't even want try pronouncing these, without sound
samples you'd get them wrong anyway :)

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Juhana Siren <Juhana.Siren@oulu.fi> writes:

> "Valerio M" <chiedi@loa.me> writes:
>
>> i'm not so sure about this discussion (virus, i 2nd declension with not much
>> to say about, since authors like Cicero, T.Livius use it as such), i think
>> it's "viri": simple as that. but that doesn't really matter since linux is
>> still virus-free :))
>
> *IF* we were speaking Latin. But we're not. Right?
>
> The word has been adopted from Latin to English. So it works like an
> English word.

Precisely. Besides which, I didn't think there was much point in there
being any plural of `virus' in Latin - wasn't it regarded as a fluid, or am
I confusing that with something else?

> If you used "sauna" like some people insist on using "virus", you'd have
> to say: "They have several saunoja at the resort", or "I just came
> saunasta" (from sauna), or "We have two saunaa: one at home and one at
> the summer house." Looks silly, doesn't it? (Besides, English speakers
> wouldn't even want try pronouncing these, without sound samples you'd get
> them wrong anyway :)

Good one :)

~Tim
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"Juhana Siren" <Juhana.Siren@oulu.fi> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> *IF* we were speaking Latin. But we're not. Right?

what you're saying is all the way right, still 2 things to point out: i read
the link and actually didn't agree with what was written in there as far as
latin was concerned; secondly, it's right, we're speaking in english, but
there's no rule there either on how to pronounce foreign words: think of
"media" as a plural of "medium"... And thirdly (ok i'm wrong with the maths)
if a lot of people say "virii", cause they like it better, well, we got a
precedent :))

bye,
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"Valerio M" <chiedi@loa.me> writes:

> And thirdly (ok i'm wrong with the
> maths) if a lot of people say "virii", cause they like it better, well,
> we got a precedent :))

Yes, but I could also start a small campaign to pronounce "Valerio" like
"muppet", by the same token ;8)

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"Tim Haynes" <usenet-20030909@stirfried.vegetable.org.uk> ha scritto nel
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> Yes, but I could also start a small campaign to pronounce "Valerio" like
> "muppet", by the same token ;8)

ok now, thanks for your precious contribution to this thread.
bye,
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Nico Coetzee wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have many examples of people stating that......
> regarding virii.
^^^^^
ARRGH! There is NO word virii. The correct plural form of virus is
viruses. I'm a doctor, we use the word viruses. Both Dorlands medical
dictionary and Websters unabridged dictionary have viruses as the plural
of virus.

On Fri, 12 Sep 2003 21:07:48 +0000, spineboy@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> Nico Coetzee wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have many examples of people stating that......
>> regarding virii.
> ^^^^^
> ARRGH! There is NO word virii. The correct plural form of virus is
> viruses. I'm a doctor, we use the word viruses. Both Dorlands medical
> dictionary and Websters unabridged dictionary have viruses as the plural
> of virus.

Have you actually read the threads? Grow up doc...

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