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Old 01-13-2005
Maria Ripanykhazova
 
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Default Install on small HDD

I have used knoppix 3.1 with varying degrees of success (finding it a
user-friendly system?) and now have a
Compaq Armada M700 Pentium 111 with only a 700 Meg hard drive.

I was wondering if I could install this OS from the CD onto the hard drive
somehow OR if this was the best version of Linux to do this with OR if it
was the best version of Knoppix to do it with? (I tried asking on the
Knoppix board but there wasn't anyone there who knew or could speak
English?) I am a bit worried that whereas it does work from a 700 meg CDROM,
there is an install process for getting it onto a hard drive which says you
need to have 3.` gig of space to do this, whatever that means

I tried one later version which says it is network-enabled as 3.1 seems to
see and install my WiFi card (a Buffalo WILL-PCM-L11GP which it seems to
recognise as a generic Orinoco card which I cant figure out how to get to
connect to my network??) but I have never managed to get the later version
to get past some screen with a tiger's face on it, describing itself as some
type of network screen.

Can Knoppix be put on a hard drive or are there better Linux distributions
for this purpose which are as user friendly? The only other one I have
which I have never dared to install is the Mandrake 10.1 from Personal
Computer World which says it is only an upgrade to an already existing
installation of 10.0.

BTW if I am a newbie to all this, is it VERY UNLIKELY INDEED that I am
going to be able to network this computer into either my XP network through
my WiFi installation or connect to the Internet with it?



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Old 01-13-2005
big-forum.com
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

first of all,
upgrade your knoppix version to current one - 3.7 and you will enjoy it more
:)

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"Maria Ripanykhazova" <dontresponddirectly@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:7sGdnYLBWr2fLXvcRVn-tw@rcn.net...
>I have used knoppix 3.1 with varying degrees of success (finding it a
> user-friendly system?) and now have a
> Compaq Armada M700 Pentium 111 with only a 700 Meg hard drive.
>
> I was wondering if I could install this OS from the CD onto the hard drive
> somehow OR if this was the best version of Linux to do this with OR if it
> was the best version of Knoppix to do it with? (I tried asking on the
> Knoppix board but there wasn't anyone there who knew or could speak
> English?) I am a bit worried that whereas it does work from a 700 meg
> CDROM,
> there is an install process for getting it onto a hard drive which says
> you
> need to have 3.` gig of space to do this, whatever that means
>
> I tried one later version which says it is network-enabled as 3.1 seems to
> see and install my WiFi card (a Buffalo WILL-PCM-L11GP which it seems to
> recognise as a generic Orinoco card which I cant figure out how to get to
> connect to my network??) but I have never managed to get the later version
> to get past some screen with a tiger's face on it, describing itself as
> some
> type of network screen.
>
> Can Knoppix be put on a hard drive or are there better Linux distributions
> for this purpose which are as user friendly? The only other one I have
> which I have never dared to install is the Mandrake 10.1 from Personal
> Computer World which says it is only an upgrade to an already existing
> installation of 10.0.
>
> BTW if I am a newbie to all this, is it VERY UNLIKELY INDEED that I am
> going to be able to network this computer into either my XP network
> through
> my WiFi installation or connect to the Internet with it?
>
>
>



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Old 01-13-2005
Maria Ripanykhazova
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

But can I not transfer the files from the CD ROM onto this particular hard
drive?

"big-forum.com" <not@for.all> wrote in message
news:FtOdnaHHG-_IK3vcRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
> first of all,
> upgrade your knoppix version to current one - 3.7 and you will enjoy it

more
> :)
>
> --
> http://www.big-forum.com
> --
>
> "Maria Ripanykhazova" <dontresponddirectly@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:7sGdnYLBWr2fLXvcRVn-tw@rcn.net...
> >I have used knoppix 3.1 with varying degrees of success (finding it a
> > user-friendly system?) and now have a
> > Compaq Armada M700 Pentium 111 with only a 700 Meg hard drive.
> >
> > I was wondering if I could install this OS from the CD onto the hard

drive
> > somehow OR if this was the best version of Linux to do this with OR if

it
> > was the best version of Knoppix to do it with? (I tried asking on the
> > Knoppix board but there wasn't anyone there who knew or could speak
> > English?) I am a bit worried that whereas it does work from a 700 meg
> > CDROM,
> > there is an install process for getting it onto a hard drive which says
> > you
> > need to have 3.` gig of space to do this, whatever that means
> >
> > I tried one later version which says it is network-enabled as 3.1 seems

to
> > see and install my WiFi card (a Buffalo WILL-PCM-L11GP which it seems to
> > recognise as a generic Orinoco card which I cant figure out how to get

to
> > connect to my network??) but I have never managed to get the later

version
> > to get past some screen with a tiger's face on it, describing itself as
> > some
> > type of network screen.
> >
> > Can Knoppix be put on a hard drive or are there better Linux

distributions
> > for this purpose which are as user friendly? The only other one I have
> > which I have never dared to install is the Mandrake 10.1 from Personal
> > Computer World which says it is only an upgrade to an already existing
> > installation of 10.0.
> >
> > BTW if I am a newbie to all this, is it VERY UNLIKELY INDEED that I am
> > going to be able to network this computer into either my XP network
> > through
> > my WiFi installation or connect to the Internet with it?
> >
> >
> >

>
>



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Old 01-13-2005
big-forum.com
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

yes, u can:
http://big-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=44#44

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"Maria Ripanykhazova" <dontresponddirectly@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ytSdneEOMttwK3vcRVn-rA@rcn.net...
> But can I not transfer the files from the CD ROM onto this particular hard
> drive?
>
> "big-forum.com" <not@for.all> wrote in message
> news:FtOdnaHHG-_IK3vcRVn-tQ@comcast.com...
>> first of all,
>> upgrade your knoppix version to current one - 3.7 and you will enjoy it

> more
>> :)
>>
>> --
>> http://www.big-forum.com
>> --
>>
>> "Maria Ripanykhazova" <dontresponddirectly@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:7sGdnYLBWr2fLXvcRVn-tw@rcn.net...
>> >I have used knoppix 3.1 with varying degrees of success (finding it a
>> > user-friendly system?) and now have a
>> > Compaq Armada M700 Pentium 111 with only a 700 Meg hard drive.
>> >
>> > I was wondering if I could install this OS from the CD onto the hard

> drive
>> > somehow OR if this was the best version of Linux to do this with OR if

> it
>> > was the best version of Knoppix to do it with? (I tried asking on the
>> > Knoppix board but there wasn't anyone there who knew or could speak
>> > English?) I am a bit worried that whereas it does work from a 700 meg
>> > CDROM,
>> > there is an install process for getting it onto a hard drive which says
>> > you
>> > need to have 3.` gig of space to do this, whatever that means
>> >
>> > I tried one later version which says it is network-enabled as 3.1 seems

> to
>> > see and install my WiFi card (a Buffalo WILL-PCM-L11GP which it seems
>> > to
>> > recognise as a generic Orinoco card which I cant figure out how to get

> to
>> > connect to my network??) but I have never managed to get the later

> version
>> > to get past some screen with a tiger's face on it, describing itself as
>> > some
>> > type of network screen.
>> >
>> > Can Knoppix be put on a hard drive or are there better Linux

> distributions
>> > for this purpose which are as user friendly? The only other one I have
>> > which I have never dared to install is the Mandrake 10.1 from Personal
>> > Computer World which says it is only an upgrade to an already existing
>> > installation of 10.0.
>> >
>> > BTW if I am a newbie to all this, is it VERY UNLIKELY INDEED that I
>> > am
>> > going to be able to network this computer into either my XP network
>> > through
>> > my WiFi installation or connect to the Internet with it?
>> >
>> >
>> >

>>
>>

>
>



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Old 01-13-2005
James Garvin
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

Maria Ripanykhazova wrote:

> BTW if I am a newbie to all this, is it VERY UNLIKELY INDEED that I am
> going to be able to network this computer into either my XP network through
> my WiFi installation or connect to the Internet with it?

I would go with Gentoo live. It runs off CD.

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Old 01-13-2005
Maria Ripanykhazova
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

Is there a way of getting THAT release onto my hard drive easily and does it
have as easy and interface as the Knoppix one?


"James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote
> I would go with Gentoo live. It runs off CD.



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Old 01-13-2005
Maria Ripanykhazova
 
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Default So is there an easier way of retaining such a great GUI on a small HDD

> http://big-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=44#44

where it says "so installation to a hard drive should probably
only be attempted by more knowledgeable Linux users"

Do I need a different version or something out of a box?


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Old 01-13-2005
Dave
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

Why don't you install a distro that is intended to be put on your
hard-drive?
Knoppix is a great tool, but it's specifically configured to run off a CD
I use redhat/fedora and during the install it shows you a list of different
packages and lets you pick what you want to install and tells you how much
space it takes. I'm sure other distros do similar.
check out

http://distrowatch.com/

some distro's are specifically configured to run on small hard-drives


Maria Ripanykhazova wrote:

> I have used knoppix 3.1 with varying degrees of success (finding it a
> user-friendly system?) and now have a
> Compaq Armada M700 Pentium 111 with only a 700 Meg hard drive.
>
> I was wondering if I could install this OS from the CD onto the hard drive
> somehow OR if this was the best version of Linux to do this with OR if it
> was the best version of Knoppix to do it with? (I tried asking on the
> Knoppix board but there wasn't anyone there who knew or could speak
> English?) I am a bit worried that whereas it does work from a 700 meg
> CDROM, there is an install process for getting it onto a hard drive which
> says you need to have 3.` gig of space to do this, whatever that means
>
> I tried one later version which says it is network-enabled as 3.1 seems to
> see and install my WiFi card (a Buffalo WILL-PCM-L11GP which it seems to
> recognise as a generic Orinoco card which I cant figure out how to get to
> connect to my network??) but I have never managed to get the later version
> to get past some screen with a tiger's face on it, describing itself as
> some type of network screen.
>
> Can Knoppix be put on a hard drive or are there better Linux distributions
> for this purpose which are as user friendly? The only other one I have
> which I have never dared to install is the Mandrake 10.1 from Personal
> Computer World which says it is only an upgrade to an already existing
> installation of 10.0.
>
> BTW if I am a newbie to all this, is it VERY UNLIKELY INDEED that I am
> going to be able to network this computer into either my XP network
> through my WiFi installation or connect to the Internet with it?


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Old 01-13-2005
Mark South
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 12:29:28 -0500, Maria Ripanykhazova wrote:

> I have used knoppix 3.1 with varying degrees of success (finding it a
> user-friendly system?) and now have a
> Compaq Armada M700 Pentium 111 with only a 700 Meg hard drive.


It won't be easy getting a fully modern distro onto that machine. If you
can live without wireless, or are happy to do a lot of tweaking, try
Vector Linux 3.2 or 4.3 <www.vectorlinux.com>. The former will happily
live and run inside 500 Mb, and I ran it for some time on a machine with a
similar spec. VL runs on modest hardware by design, and from early day
has been pretty effective at detecting hardware (including PCMCIA cards).

Good luck with your search anyway, and let us know how you get on.
--
Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen

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Old 01-13-2005
James Garvin
 
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Default Re: Install on small HDD

Maria Ripanykhazova wrote:
> Is there a way of getting THAT release onto my hard drive easily and does it
> have as easy and interface as the Knoppix one?
>
>
> "James Garvin" <jgarvin2004@comcast.net> wrote
>
>>I would go with Gentoo live. It runs off CD.


I would just buy the CD ;-) It is 600ish mb and quite big, but fits on
a CD. If you can dl it and burn it elsewhere or buy it...

The interface is clean and easy to use...it is even pretty good with
wireless stuff.
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