Best spam filter?

What would you say is the best SPAM filter? SpamAssasin? or is there
another product that is as good or better?

My email address - pick it up SPAM bots :)
aasesh@cpu-technologies.com

On 15 Jan 2004 21:23:47 -0800, Ason Asesh <aasesh@cpu-technologies.com> wrote:
>
>
> What would you say is the best SPAM filter? SpamAssasin? or is there
> another product that is as good or better?
>
> My email address - pick it up SPAM bots :)
> aasesh@cpu-technologies.com

The best STRATEGY for controlling your mailbox is:


YES Pass-List

first get all the mail from friends and businesses and mailing lists
safely in your inbox

NO Content-Filter like SpamAssassin

to weed out the stuff you KNOW is spam


MAYBE Challenge-Response

send a note to everything that gets past the above asking them to
paste an included password on the subject line and send it back.

if the address is a forgery, then it doesn't come back
and you know it's spam or worse.

(use the Reply-To address first, and the From: address second)



Procmail can do all of the above, including calling SA, easily.



AC

Alan Connor <zzzzzz@xxx.yyy> wrote in message news:<lNLNb.12503$zj7.6886@newsread1.news.pas.eart hlink.net>...
> On 15 Jan 2004 21:23:47 -0800, Ason Asesh <aasesh@cpu-technologies.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > What would you say is the best SPAM filter? SpamAssasin? or is there
> > another product that is as good or better?
> >
> > My email address - pick it up SPAM bots :)
> > aasesh@cpu-technologies.com
>
> The best STRATEGY for controlling your mailbox is:
>
>
> YES Pass-List
>
> first get all the mail from friends and businesses and mailing lists
> safely in your inbox

Normal people call this a whitelist. Spamassassin can do this easily.
In fact, it will autowhitelist people if you keep receiving legit mail
from them.

But whitelisting a losing battle...whitelist the people who regularly
get classified as spam, and just be sure to run typical message
through spamassassin's Bayesian learning.

> NO Content-Filter like SpamAssassin
>
> to weed out the stuff you KNOW is spam

Alternately, just put the tags in there and let your client (or
procmail) classify it into another folder.

> MAYBE Challenge-Response
>
> send a note to everything that gets past the above asking them to
> paste an included password on the subject line and send it back.
>
> if the address is a forgery, then it doesn't come back
> and you know it's spam or worse.

Unless the person who's being forged get so damn pissed at everyone
forwarding spam to them that they confirm it, which I do whenever it
happens to me.

It's not my job to filter your spam for you. No one has the right to
forward random messages 'back' to me when they don't know if I sent
them or not.

> (use the Reply-To address first, and the From: address second)

Warning, warning, warning.

Do not listen to Alan Connor, he is completely insane.

You should not send bounces or delivery failures messages to Reply-To
or From, *ever*. Delivery failure messages go to the envelope,
*always*. (Or, arguable, the depricated Errors-Tos header, which
someone pointed out the last time I was here.)

Alan's system will do stupid things like send C/R confirmations to
mailing lists. (In fact, his system is so screwed up that a message
can be forged to it to cause it to do confirmed opt-in to a mailing
list.)

This is in *addition* to C/R being a bad idea overall.

> Procmail can do all of the above, including calling SA, easily.

Or maildrop, or whatever you want to use. Spamassassin can run as a
daemon, too, which is a lot faster than starting perl each time.

On 15 Jan 2004 21:23:47 -0800, aasesh@cpu-technologies.com (Ason
Asesh) wrote:

>What would you say is the best SPAM filter? SpamAssasin? or is there
>another product that is as good or better?
>
>My email address - pick it up SPAM bots :)
>aasesh@cpu-technologies.com


IMHO, the best spam filter approach is a mix of several. I'm
currently using postfix with amavisd-new, f-prot, clam, and
spamassassin. SA is configured to use bayes, razor, dcc, and pyzor.
(I'm also using a locally modified ruleset) Sitewide, we see about 1
spam per week and 0 viruses. According to the logs, we get hit a few
times per second on a bad day by crap trying to make it thru. I think
I've probably got a good setup. ;)

If you don't know what most of the above means, subscribe to the
spamassassin list.

Mike-

Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive.
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installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If
email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded,
non-attachments.


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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 13:19:51 -0500, Michael W Cocke <cocke@catherders.com> wrote:
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>
> On 15 Jan 2004 21:23:47 -0800, aasesh@cpu-technologies.com (Ason
> Asesh) wrote:
>
>>What would you say is the best SPAM filter? SpamAssasin? or is there
>>another product that is as good or better?
>>
>>My email address - pick it up SPAM bots :)
>>aasesh@cpu-technologies.com
>
>
> IMHO, the best spam filter approach is a mix of several. I'm
> currently using postfix with amavisd-new, f-prot, clam, and
> spamassassin. SA is configured to use bayes, razor, dcc, and pyzor.
> (I'm also using a locally modified ruleset) Sitewide, we see about 1
> spam per week and 0 viruses. According to the logs, we get hit a few
> times per second on a bad day by crap trying to make it thru. I think
> I've probably got a good setup. ;)
>
> If you don't know what most of the above means, subscribe to the
> spamassassin list.
>
> Mike-
>
> Mornings: Evolution in action. Only the grumpy will survive.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>
> Please note - Due to the intense volume of spam, we have
> installed site-wide spam filters at catherders.com. If
> email from you bounces, try non-HTML, non-encoded,
> non-attachments.
>
>
> ----== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==----
> http://www.newsfeed.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >100,000 Newsgroups
> ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =---

I love it!

A "spam fighter" that spams the Usenet and has an illegal sig, forcing everyone

to read his sig AND the spam he posts.


Clean up your act, hypocrite!

Use a legal sig delimiter "-- " and limit yourself to 4 lines below it
and ditch that renegade newsserver


AC