networking/samba

Ok, here is my situation:
I have been playing around with RH 9 for a little while, but am pretty new
wo it. It is on an old puter but seems to run well, network set up OK and
I (obviously) have internet access, through another winXP puter.
Getting samba to work has been a struggle...still not working correctly,
i.e. cannot share the Linux printer, can view/move files on the windoze
puters (one win98, the server is winXP) most of the time.
The real problem I have is that the network addresses are substandard, I
think....they are in the 192.168.0.x range! This is the way that the
winXP puter set them up using the "wizard". I tried to change them to a
192.168.1.x range and the whole system went haywire, meaning I lost
internet connection on the win98 puters, could use internet with the Linux
puter, though it was slow. All puters have fixed ip addresses.
My question is what are the ramifications of this...is this a problem or
is it OK to have a 192.168.0.xx addresses? And why would WinXP set it
this way?
TIA

Jon Dough <user@host.com> wrote in message news:<pan.2003.12.10.07.17.50.269703@host.com>...
> Ok, here is my situation:
> I have been playing around with RH 9 for a little while, but am pretty new
> wo it. It is on an old puter but seems to run well, network set up OK and
> I (obviously) have internet access, through another winXP puter.
> Getting samba to work has been a struggle...still not working correctly,
> i.e. cannot share the Linux printer, can view/move files on the windoze
> puters (one win98, the server is winXP) most of the time.
> The real problem I have is that the network addresses are substandard, I
> think....they are in the 192.168.0.x range! This is the way that the
> winXP puter set them up using the "wizard". I tried to change them to a
> 192.168.1.x range and the whole system went haywire, meaning I lost
> internet connection on the win98 puters, could use internet with the Linux
> puter, though it was slow. All puters have fixed ip addresses.
> My question is what are the ramifications of this...is this a problem or
> is it OK to have a 192.168.0.xx addresses? And why would WinXP set it
> this way?
> TIA

I have a windows xp home system that is my internet access to my
Lindows computer, and it only works if it is set to 192.168.0.1 also.

"Trent" <trentallenblack@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:19d1da79.0312100743.8d75753@posting.google.co m...
> Jon Dough <user@host.com> wrote in message
news:<pan.2003.12.10.07.17.50.269703@host.com>...
> > Ok, here is my situation:
> > I have been playing around with RH 9 for a little while, but am pretty
new
> > wo it. It is on an old puter but seems to run well, network set up OK
and
> > I (obviously) have internet access, through another winXP puter.
> > Getting samba to work has been a struggle...still not working correctly,
> > i.e. cannot share the Linux printer, can view/move files on the windoze
> > puters (one win98, the server is winXP) most of the time.
> > The real problem I have is that the network addresses are substandard, I
> > think....they are in the 192.168.0.x range! This is the way that the
> > winXP puter set them up using the "wizard". I tried to change them to a
> > 192.168.1.x range and the whole system went haywire, meaning I lost
> > internet connection on the win98 puters, could use internet with the
Linux
> > puter, though it was slow. All puters have fixed ip addresses.
> > My question is what are the ramifications of this...is this a problem or
> > is it OK to have a 192.168.0.xx addresses? And why would WinXP set it
> > this way?
> > TIA
>
> I have a windows xp home system that is my internet access to my
> Lindows computer, and it only works if it is set to 192.168.0.1 also.

Do both you guys happen to use a router whose default is 192.168.0.1?

On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:00:14 +0000, Stephen Harris wrote:

>
> "Trent" <trentallenblack@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:19d1da79.0312100743.8d75753@posting.google.co m...
>> Jon Dough <user@host.com> wrote in message
> news:<pan.2003.12.10.07.17.50.269703@host.com>...
>> > Ok, here is my situation:
>> > I have been playing around with RH 9 for a little while, but am pretty
> new
>> > wo it. It is on an old puter but seems to run well, network set up OK
> and
>> > I (obviously) have internet access, through another winXP puter.
>> > Getting samba to work has been a struggle...still not working correctly,
>> > i.e. cannot share the Linux printer, can view/move files on the windoze
>> > puters (one win98, the server is winXP) most of the time.
>> > The real problem I have is that the network addresses are substandard, I
>> > think....they are in the 192.168.0.x range! This is the way that the
>> > winXP puter set them up using the "wizard". I tried to change them to a
>> > 192.168.1.x range and the whole system went haywire, meaning I lost
>> > internet connection on the win98 puters, could use internet with the
> Linux
>> > puter, though it was slow. All puters have fixed ip addresses.
>> > My question is what are the ramifications of this...is this a problem or
>> > is it OK to have a 192.168.0.xx addresses? And why would WinXP set it
>> > this way?
>> > TIA
>>
>> I have a windows xp home system that is my internet access to my
>> Lindows computer, and it only works if it is set to 192.168.0.1 also.
>
> Do both you guys happen to use a router whose default is 192.168.0.1?

No. This is a home network that is about as simple as it gets. I have a
cable modem using a USB port into an XP pro computer and firewalled. The
ethernet card from the XP puter goes to a 5 port hub, no router or switch.

XP assigns that address automatically during the wizard setup. XP is now the
router for your network from what you have stated. The XP system will also
vend out an ip address via a built in dhcp server so you may give that a
shot and switch clients over to dhcp and allow the XP gateway/server do the
Ip address assignments. The 192.168.*.* ip address space was designed for
internal networks (not on the internet) and to access the internet you would
use a router (XP system in your case).

Also you may want to look at your Samba configuration and make sure it is
setup correctly to allow access. Then their is the firewall that may have
installed by default on your Linux system.

There are a number of variables here. start over from scratch with the XP
gateway and build your way back. Also for file sharing, you need to have the
workgroup/domain be the same on all systems if your going to access via smb.

Raymond Dias
"Jon Dough" <user@host.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2003.12.11.06.07.11.679979@host.com...
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 19:00:14 +0000, Stephen Harris wrote:
>
> >
> > "Trent" <trentallenblack@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:19d1da79.0312100743.8d75753@posting.google.co m...
> >> Jon Dough <user@host.com> wrote in message
> > news:<pan.2003.12.10.07.17.50.269703@host.com>...
> >> > Ok, here is my situation:
> >> > I have been playing around with RH 9 for a little while, but am
pretty
> > new
> >> > wo it. It is on an old puter but seems to run well, network set up
OK
> > and
> >> > I (obviously) have internet access, through another winXP puter.
> >> > Getting samba to work has been a struggle...still not working
correctly,
> >> > i.e. cannot share the Linux printer, can view/move files on the
windoze
> >> > puters (one win98, the server is winXP) most of the time.
> >> > The real problem I have is that the network addresses are
substandard, I
> >> > think....they are in the 192.168.0.x range! This is the way that the
> >> > winXP puter set them up using the "wizard". I tried to change them
to a
> >> > 192.168.1.x range and the whole system went haywire, meaning I lost
> >> > internet connection on the win98 puters, could use internet with the
> > Linux
> >> > puter, though it was slow. All puters have fixed ip addresses.
> >> > My question is what are the ramifications of this...is this a problem
or
> >> > is it OK to have a 192.168.0.xx addresses? And why would WinXP set
it
> >> > this way?
> >> > TIA
> >>
> >> I have a windows xp home system that is my internet access to my
> >> Lindows computer, and it only works if it is set to 192.168.0.1 also.
> >
> > Do both you guys happen to use a router whose default is 192.168.0.1?
>
> No. This is a home network that is about as simple as it gets. I have a
> cable modem using a USB port into an XP pro computer and firewalled. The
> ethernet card from the XP puter goes to a 5 port hub, no router or switch.
>

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:40:05 +0000, Raymond Dias wrote:

> XP assigns that address automatically during the wizard setup. XP is now the
> router for your network from what you have stated. The XP system will also
> vend out an ip address via a built in dhcp server so you may give that a
> shot and switch clients over to dhcp and allow the XP gateway/server do the
> Ip address assignments. The 192.168.*.* ip address space was designed for
> internal networks (not on the internet) and to access the internet you would
> use a router (XP system in your case).
>
> Also you may want to look at your Samba configuration and make sure it is
> setup correctly to allow access. Then their is the firewall that may have
> installed by default on your Linux system.
>
> There are a number of variables here. start over from scratch with the XP
> gateway and build your way back. Also for file sharing, you need to have the
> workgroup/domain be the same on all systems if your going to access via smb.
>
Ok, so an internal (home) network is OK with a 192.168.0.x ip address. I
have tried this and it will also work with DHCP but seems to respond
slower. Fixed IP addresses just seem easier to me.
I know I have problems with my Samba config. I am thinking it is in the
area of passwords because my Linux computer (RH9)can view files on the
windoze computers and communicate with them. I cannot get the windoze
computers to share their printers, though. However, the Linux computer
absolutely, positively, completely refuses to give access to any of the
windoze computers...shows up as a Samba server in the network neighborhood
but is not accessable.
I obviously have some learning to do with networking. ; )