Simple name windows linux question

>>>To the OP:
>>>
>>>1) Do you have DNS within your LAN? If you do, add a DNS record for
>>>linux machine into your DNS server.
>>>
>>>2) If you do not have DNS within your LAN, then maybe running a SAMBA
>>>client on the linux machine will add your linux's IP address to your
>>>Windows' network WINS ( ugh! ).
>>>
>>>3) Otherwise, you have to modify \WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts and
>>>add an IP address and hostname pair in that file for the linux machine.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you, thank you, thank you and
>> thanks again. But what is this WINS
>> thingy.
>
>Well, if you do not know what WINS is, you have a lot more to learn
>before using linux in a network with mostly Windows hosts.
>
>WINS = Windows Internet Naming Resolution
>You better ask more details about it in the windows newsgroup
>
>
>
>
>


I have been a subscriber to Linux Magazine for the last three years. This
question belongs right there.

What does WINS have to do with SAMBA?

Vitamx wrote:
> Or maybe this should be a windows unix question.
>
> OK I understand how Unix matches names with ip addresses.

From later posts, it appears that you /don't/ understand how Unix matches
names with IP addresses, because MSWindows does exactly the same matching in
exactly the same manner. It's all either PPP, DHCP, local DNS settings, or
the hosts file, no matter whether it's Linux or MSWindows.

> But I have no clue with Windows. And I dont really want to have
> deep understanding here. I rather not waste my time on this
> dinosaur. But I need to integrate a linux box with a windows
> network.
>
> How does windows match names and ip addresses?

One of two ways:

a) Through DNS resolution, where the assigned DNS servers are queried for a
name-to-ip map. On MSWindows, DNS servers are assigned in one of three ways:
1) by the PPP parameters from your ISP, as interpreted by Windows DUN, or
2) by the DHCP parameters from your ISP, as interpreted by Windows DHCP, or
3) by the explicit DNS server IP addresses you assign to the adaptor
through the Network / Protocol settings,

b) Through the "hosts" file (IIRC, in %WINDOWS%\system32\drivers\etc)


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I found the following passage in Running Linux:

The WINS support parameter tells Samba
to function as a wins server, for resolving computer names into IP addresses,
this is
optional, but it helps to keep your network
running efficiently

Now what does that mean?

Vitamx wrote:

>>To the OP:
>>
>>1) Do you have DNS within your LAN? If you do, add a DNS record for
>>linux machine into your DNS server.
>>
>>2) If you do not have DNS within your LAN, then maybe running a SAMBA
>>client on the linux machine will add your linux's IP address to your
>>Windows' network WINS ( ugh! ).
>>
>>3) Otherwise, you have to modify \WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts and
>>add an IP address and hostname pair in that file for the linux machine.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Thank you, thank you, thank you and
> thanks again. But what is this WINS
> thingy.

Windows DNS, done wrong

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Vitamx wrote:

>
>
> I have been a subscriber to Linux Magazine for the last three years.

Is that supposed to make you an expert? No, only experience counts.

This
> question belongs right there.

No, because you do not know what WINS is.
WINS is, like I mentioned, "___Windows__ Internet Naming Service /
Resolution".

>
> What does WINS have to do with SAMBA?
>

SAMBA --- Go to www.samba.org

Vitamx wrote:

>>>>To the OP:
>>>>
>>>>1) Do you have DNS within your LAN? If you do, add a DNS record for
>>>>linux machine into your DNS server.
>>>>
>>>>2) If you do not have DNS within your LAN, then maybe running a SAMBA
>>>>client on the linux machine will add your linux's IP address to your
>>>>Windows' network WINS ( ugh! ).
>>>>
>>>>3) Otherwise, you have to modify \WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts and
>>>>add an IP address and hostname pair in that file for the linux machine.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Thank you, thank you, thank you and
>>>thanks again. But what is this WINS
>>>thingy.
>>

If you do not do __any__ of the things we have been telling you to do,
there is no point asking for help. Do not ask to be spoon-fed.

>
>>
>> I have been a subscriber to Linux Magazine for the last three years.
>
>Is that supposed to make you an expert? No, only experience counts.
>
>This
>> question belongs right there.
>
>No, because you do not know what WINS is.
>WINS is, like I mentioned, "___Windows__ Internet Naming Service /
>Resolution".
>
>>
>> What does WINS have to do with SAMBA?
>>
>
>SAMBA --- Go to www.samba.org
>
>
>

Being a subscriber to Linux Magazine
has taught me that Linux-Windows
integration is perhaps the most important
topic in linux networking.

I have been researching this topic
outside of this newsgroup. I have to
because so little good information is
coming from this newsgroup.

Mostly just a bunch of pissiness about
posting windows questions.

But my research has proved to me beyond
any shadow of doubt that WINS questions
do belong in this newsgroup.

Just as the issue is discussed in Linux
Magazine, Running Linux and www.samba.org, which is really a linux
networking website. Samba is GNU
software aint it?

On 12 Nov 2003 04:53:17 GMT, Vitamx wrote:

> Just as the issue is discussed in Linux Magazine, Running Linux and
> www.samba.org, which is really a linux networking website. Samba is
> GNU software aint it?

Why sure, but, you were not asking how to configure samba on linux.
You were asking how to make winders aware of a new box on the lan.

Vitamx wrote:
>
>
> Being a subscriber to Linux Magazine
> has taught me that Linux-Windows
> integration is perhaps the most important
> topic in linux networking.

/sarcastic mode on

Really?? You mean __the most__ important?
Wow!

/sarcastic mode off

>
> I have been researching this topic
> outside of this newsgroup. I have to
> because so little good information is
> coming from this newsgroup.

So, after all your so-called "research", you have not heard of WINS ??
Even while you are using Windows PCs and no linux hosts ?

Amazing !

>
> Mostly just a bunch of pissiness about
> posting windows questions.

And you do not know why ?
Because you __refuse__ to do what you have been told to do.

Answer me: Why do you refuse to do at least the last answer I made to
you, which was:

"3) Otherwise, you have to modify \WINNT\system32\drivers\etc\hosts and
add an IP address and hostname pair in that file for the linux machine."

Why do you refuse to do it ?
Why do you refuse to do it ?
Why do you refuse to do it ?
Why do you refuse to do it ?
Why do you refuse to do it ?
Why do you refuse to do it ?
Why do you refuse to do it ?

>
> But my research has proved to me beyond
> any shadow of doubt that WINS questions
> do belong in this newsgroup.

"Beyond the shadow of doubt" --- mmmm...
Even though WINS is a protocol from Microsoft.

You asked: "What is WINS?"
I said: "Windows Internet Naming Service / Resolution", or more
precisely, "Windows Internetworking Name Server"

If you want to know more about it, go to a microsoft newsgroup. It is
Microsoft's protocol!!!

>
> Just as the issue is discussed in Linux
> Magazine, Running Linux and www.samba.org, which is really a linux
> networking website. Samba is GNU
> software aint it?

You can use SAMBA in 2 ways ( as a server or as a client ).
In your case, because you do not have DNS within your network, you want
to somehow register the NetBIOS name of your linux PC with other Windows PC.

http://au1.samba.org/samba/docs/man/...html#id2884219

http://www.linux.org.au/LDP/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html


Don't tell me that you have not read the above after all your research.