Simple name windows linux question

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  #11 (permalink)  
Old 11-09-2003
Vitamx
 
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>[..]
>> In the Unix world, the computer is given
>> the ip address of the DNS and so on and
>> so on.

>
>> How is it done in the Windows world?

>
>The same as in Linux, albeit you have to put the
>IP(s) of your name server in some GUI box, AFAIR.
>
>> And this is a linux networking question
>> because it is so important to integrate
>> Linux with Windows and people that ask
>> questions about it dont need insolent responses.

>
>Your question has nothing to do with Linux, you want
>to know the equivalent for /etc/resolv.conf in M$.
>
>If you don't like the answers to your OT question,
>just use a relevant ng.
>
>BTW
>Please trim your posts
>
>--
>Michael Heiming
>
>Remove +SIGNS and www. if you expect an answer, sorry for
>inconvenience, but I get tons of SPAM
>
>
>


Where is the Linux windows network
integration newsgroup?

Anyway, I guess I do want to know the
equivalent for /etc/resolv.conf in the
windows world. This is because I am
trying to put linux computer amongst
some windows computers.

Also in the Unix world, as I understand it,
a lan, a wan and the WWW are really
all the same. Some distinction is made
in this thread that they are different in
the windows world.

This thread leaves me completely unenlightened.
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Old 11-09-2003
Bit Twister
 
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On 09 Nov 2003 18:16:31 GMT, Vitamx wrote:
>
> Where is the Linux windows network
> integration newsgroup?


My guess, there is not one.
You ask a Microsoft news group on how to add host name and ip address
so you can network with a local host box.

> Anyway, I guess I do want to know the equivalent for
> /etc/resolv.conf in the windows world. This is because I am trying
> to put linux computer amongst some windows computers.


Then put the linux box name and ip address in the hosts file on the
windows box.

You do not put the lan linux box information in the
"windows /etc/resolv.conf" file.

> Also in the Unix world, as I understand it, a lan, a wan and the WWW
> are really all the same.


Then why in the world would they have different names if they are the same?

They mean differnt things and in this thread, they tend to indicate
which file gets what information.

> Some distinction is made in this thread that they are different in
> the windows world.


It is the same distinction in the Unix world.

> This thread leaves me completely unenlightened.


Yes, we can tell.

I quote you yet again
"But I have no clue with Windows. And I dont really want to have
deep understanding here. I rather not waste my time on this
dinosaur. "

We are having a hard time finding your light switch. :)

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Old 11-09-2003
Vitamx
 
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>On 09 Nov 2003 18:16:31 GMT, Vitamx wrote:
>>
>> Where is the Linux windows network
>> integration newsgroup?

>
>My guess, there is not one.
>You ask a Microsoft news group on how to add host name and ip address
>so you can network with a local host box.
>
>> Anyway, I guess I do want to know the equivalent for
>> /etc/resolv.conf in the windows world. This is because I am trying
>> to put linux computer amongst some windows computers.

>
>Then put the linux box name and ip address in the hosts file on the
>windows box.
>
>You do not put the lan linux box information in the
>"windows /etc/resolv.conf" file.
>
>> Also in the Unix world, as I understand it, a lan, a wan and the WWW
>> are really all the same.

>
>Then why in the world would they have different names if they are the same?
>
>They mean differnt things and in this thread, they tend to indicate
>which file gets what information.
>
>> Some distinction is made in this thread that they are different in
>> the windows world.

>
>It is the same distinction in the Unix world.
>
>> This thread leaves me completely unenlightened.

>
>Yes, we can tell.
>
>I quote you yet again
> "But I have no clue with Windows. And I dont really want to have
> deep understanding here. I rather not waste my time on this
> dinosaur. "
>
>We are having a hard time finding your light switch. :)
>
>
>
>

Does this mean I have to put the linux
box name and ip address in every
windows box?

Please humor me here. How does
windows resolve the names of Linux
computers on the WWW?

Also I thought the only difference between
a lan and the www is that the lan is
is isolated. Well maybe a few other
differences but basically a lan is the
WWW on a smaller scale. At least
in the linux world.
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Old 11-09-2003
armin walland
 
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Vitamx <vitamx@aol.com> wrote:
> Please humor me here. How does
> windows resolve the names of Linux
> computers on the WWW?


through nameservers

> Also I thought the only difference between
> a lan and the www is that the lan is
> is isolated.


if you have a nameserver in your lan it will do the name resolving.

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Old 11-09-2003
Bit Twister
 
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On 09 Nov 2003 20:39:21 GMT, Vitamx wrote:

> Does this mean I have to put the linux
> box name and ip address in every
> windows box?


Yes and no. Depends on your setup. See other post by armin wallan.

> Please humor me here.


Tickel, tickel, tickel......

> How does
> windows resolve the names of Linux
> computers on the WWW?


Just like
any
other operating
system, it
ask the Domain
Name Server to
resolve
it.

Short sentences realy bite, Please feel free to make them longer up to
72 characters in length max.

> Also I thought the only difference between
> a lan and the www is that the lan is
> is isolated.


True.

> Well maybe a few other
> differences but basically a lan is the
> WWW on a smaller scale. At least
> in the linux world.


and every where else.

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Old 11-09-2003
Vitamx
 
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>Vitamx <vitamx@aol.com> wrote:
>> Please humor me here. How does
>> windows resolve the names of Linux
>> computers on the WWW?

>
>through nameservers
>
>> Also I thought the only difference between
>> a lan and the www is that the lan is
>> is isolated.

>
>if you have a nameserver in your lan it will do the name resolving.
>
>--
>


OK, I am typing this from a standalone
windows computer. How does this
computer find the nameserver on the
internet. And lets pretend I am not using
AOL, but just a generic isp. Lets make
it a linux isp to stay on topic in the NG.
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Old 11-09-2003
Bit Twister
 
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On 09 Nov 2003 21:12:17 GMT, Vitamx wrote:
>
> OK, I am typing this from a standalone
> windows computer. How does this
> computer find the nameserver on the
> internet. And lets pretend I am not using
> AOL, but just a generic isp. Lets make
> it a linux isp to stay on topic in the NG.


It is still a windows question. Saying it is a linux isp does not put
it On Topic.

doze gets the name server from the dhcp server, during the ppp connection
or the human using the gui interface which ever is applicable.

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Old 11-09-2003
armin walland
 
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Vitamx <vitamx@aol.com> wrote:
> OK, I am typing this from a standalone
> windows computer. How does this
> computer find the nameserver on the
> internet.


either you input your nameservers' ip addresses in your network settings
or if you use dhcp the dhcp server tells your machine the nameservers'
ip addresses.

> And lets pretend I am not using
> AOL, but just a generic isp. Lets make
> it a linux isp to stay on topic in the NG.


i have never heard of a 'linux isp' network connectivity is not a OS
specific thing. the questions you are asking are absolute network basics
and have nothing to do with linux.


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Old 11-09-2003
Martin Blume
 
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"Vitamx" <vitamx@aol.com> schrieb
> >> Please humor me here. How does
> >> windows resolve the names of Linux
> >> computers on the WWW?

> >
> >through nameservers
> >


Why don't you just follow the steps you were doing when you were
attaching a new windows machine to the network? In one of your
earlier posts you said:
> This is because I am
> trying to put linux computer amongst
> some windows computers.

So you must have already configured at least one windows machine.
Just repeat this configuration for the new machine.

I don't understand how you can have a working windows machine
network and ask these basic questions here (here !!! in a linux
group).

Puzzled
Martin



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Old 11-10-2003
Vitamx
 
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>On 09 Nov 2003 21:12:17 GMT, Vitamx wrote:
>>
>> OK, I am typing this from a standalone
>> windows computer. How does this
>> computer find the nameserver on the
>> internet. And lets pretend I am not using
>> AOL, but just a generic isp. Lets make
>> it a linux isp to stay on topic in the NG.

>
>It is still a windows question. Saying it is a linux isp does not put
>it On Topic.
>
>doze gets the name server from the dhcp server, during the ppp connection
>or the human using the gui interface which ever is applicable.
>
>
>
>


I have a dhcp connection to the internet
right now from a windows machine.

Where is the ip adddress of the
nameserver stored on this computer?

And lets assume that I was attached to
a linux machine. How is the linux machine
configured to stick the ip address of its
network on my machine when the dhcp
connection is made?
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