redhat can't see network card on MSI K9NGM4 V2

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Old 07-04-2008
obakesan
 
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Default redhat can't see network card on MSI K9NGM4 V2

Hi

Its enabled in the bios, but despite trying to I can't even get it to see this

is it possible, or should I just use another card?

thanks

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Old 07-04-2008
Dances With Crows
 
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obakesan staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> [The NIC on an MSI K9NGM4 V2 board is] enabled in the bios, but
> despite trying to, I can't even get [Redhat] to see [it]. Is it
> possible, or should I just use another card?


Which version of Redhat are you using? Does the card show up in the
output from /sbin/lspci ? If you're using an old Redhat, it's possible
that the NIC on your board didn't exist when that old Redhat was
released. So: Answer the first question, then post the relevant output
from lspci, and someone will probably be able to tell you what to do.

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Old 07-05-2008
obakesan
 
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HI

In article <slrng6ssdr.eb2.danceswithcrows@crow202.dyndns.org >, Dances With
Crows <danceswithcrows@usa.net> wrote:
>obakesan staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>> [The NIC on an MSI K9NGM4 V2 board is] enabled in the bios, but
>> despite trying to, I can't even get [Redhat] to see [it]. Is it
>> possible, or should I just use another card?

>
>Which version of Redhat are you using? Does the card show up in the
>output from /sbin/lspci ? If you're using an old Redhat, it's possible
>that the NIC on your board didn't exist when that old Redhat was
>released. So: Answer the first question, then post the relevant output
>from lspci, and someone will probably be able to tell you what to do.
>


redhat nash 4.2.1.6

However, I think that I've found that its not possible ... as I found
something on this on the Realtek FAQ (on their site {they make the NIC}):

RTL8201, RTL8201BL, RTL8201CL, RTL8201CP, RTL8201N and RTL8211B(L) are all
PHYceiver. That is a driverless hardware device. Software driver are relative
to Network controller ( MAC ) which is integrated into chipset in such case
mostly. Please contact your mother board maker or chipset manufacturer to
obtain proper driver support.

so its not looking good ... :-)

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Old 07-06-2008
Dances With Crows
 
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obakesan staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> Dances With Crows wrote:
>>obakesan staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>>> [The NIC on an MSI K9NGM4 V2 board is] enabled in the bios, but
>>> despite trying to, I can't even get [Redhat] to see [it]. Is it
>>> possible, or should I just use another card?

>>Which version of Redhat are you using? Does the card show up in the
>>output from /sbin/lspci ? Answer the first question, then post the
>>relevant output from lspci,

> redhat nash 4.2.1.6


Um. Redhat 4 is ancient and cannot be used with any modern hardware.
RHEL 4 is much more recent, but still behind the times by one release.
You should also provide the output of "uname -a" since Redhat's
versioning scheme is less consistent than you may know, and not everyone
is familiar with every name that every Redhat release had.

> RTL8201, RTL8201BL, RTL8201CL, RTL8201CP, RTL8201N and RTL8211B(L) are
> all PHYceiver. That is a driverless hardware device. Software driver
> are relative to Network controller ( MAC ) which is integrated into
> chipset in such case mostly.


This is why I wanted to see the output fron /sbin/lspci . (And all of
whose base are belong to what?)

> so [it's] not looking good


There is still not enough information to figure out whether the card can
be made to work or not. Post the relevant info from lspci.

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Old 07-06-2008
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Morning

In article <slrng70549.eb2.danceswithcrows@crow202.dyndns.org >, Dances With
Crows <danceswithcrows@usa.net> wrote:
>obakesan staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>> Dances With Crows wrote:
>>>output from /sbin/lspci ? Answer the first question, then post the
>>>relevant output from lspci,

>> redhat nash 4.2.1.6

>
>Um. Redhat 4 is ancient and cannot be used with any modern hardware.

[snip]
>You should also provide the output of "uname -a" since Redhat's
>versioning scheme is less consistent than you may know, and not everyone


when it comes to linux I certainly do not lay claim to knowing much at all

ok ... so uname -a [what I think to be the] relevant output is line 1:

Linux version 2.6.9-22.ELsmp (bhcompile@porky.build.redhat.com) (gcc version
3.4.4 20050721 (Red Hat 3.4.4-2)) #1 SMP Mon Sep 19 18:32:14 EDT 2005

there are some 338 other lines, so please let me know if you want all of them
(or which of them you may want)

>
>> RTL8201, RTL8201BL, RTL8201CL, RTL8201CP, RTL8201N and RTL8211B(L) are
>> all PHYceiver. That is a driverless hardware device. Software driver
>> are relative to Network controller ( MAC ) which is integrated into
>> chipset in such case mostly.

>
>This is why I wanted to see the output fron /sbin/lspci . (And all of
>whose base are belong to what?)


ok ... since you're hopeful :-)

00:00.0 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0547 (rev a2)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0548 (rev a2)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0542 (rev a2)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 055e (rev a2)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 055f (rev a2)
00:04.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 055e (rev a2)
00:04.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 055f (rev a2)
00:06.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0560 (rev a1)
00:07.0 Class 0403: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 055c (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0561 (rev a2)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0550 (rev a2)
00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 054c (rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0562 (rev a2)
00:0c.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
00:0d.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
00:0f.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
00:10.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
00:11.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0563 (rev a2)
00:12.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 053b
(rev a2)

HTH

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Old 07-06-2008
Pascal Hambourg
 
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Hello,

obakesan a écrit :
>
>>>RTL8201, RTL8201BL, RTL8201CL, RTL8201CP, RTL8201N and RTL8211B(L) are
>>>all PHYceiver. That is a driverless hardware device. Software driver
>>>are relative to Network controller ( MAC ) which is integrated into
>>>chipset in such case mostly.


These are PHY devices, the part beyond the ethernet controller itself.
You don't need a driver for it, only for the controller.

> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 054c (rev a2)


According to my information this is an nVidia MCP67 ethernet controller,
which requires the forcedeth driver in kernel 2.6.20 at least.
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Old 07-06-2008
Dances With Crows
 
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Pascal Hambourg staggered into the Black Sun and said:
> obakesan a écrit :
>>>>RTL8201, RTL8201BL, RTL8201CL, RTL8201CP, RTL8201N and RTL8211B(L)
>>>>are all PHYceiver. That is a driverless hardware device. Software
>>>>driver are relative to Network controller ( MAC ) which is
>>>>integrated into chipset in such case mostly.

> These are PHY devices, the part beyond the ethernet controller itself.
> You don't need a driver for it, only for the controller.
>
>> 00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 054c

> According to my information this is an nVidia MCP67 ethernet
> controller, which requires the forcedeth driver in kernel 2.6.20 at
> least.


Yep. Anyhow, you're running RHEL 4 (not Redhat 4), which may be very
important when you ask for help in the future. The 2.6.18-whatever
kernel present in CentOS 5.1 and RHEL 5 has the forcedeth module in it,
and that will probably work. Also, if you do an lspci and you see a lot
of "unknown device" hardware listed, it means your pciutils are too old
and you should update them. (Or you have a bunch of really new
hardware.)

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Old 07-06-2008
Pascal Hambourg
 
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Dances With Crows a écrit :
>
>>>00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 054c

>>
>>According to my information this is an nVidia MCP67 ethernet
>>controller, which requires the forcedeth driver in kernel 2.6.20 at
>>least.

>
> The 2.6.18-whatever
> kernel present in CentOS 5.1 and RHEL 5 has the forcedeth module in it,
> and that will probably work.


Only if RedHat patched it. The forcedeth module in the original 2.6.18
kernel does not support this PCI device ID.
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