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Old 02-27-2005
Me
 
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Default hardware graphics acceleration

I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
hardware accel?
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Old 02-27-2005
Grant Edwards
 
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On 2005-02-27, Me <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:

> I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
> Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
> acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
> hardware accel?


You probably need to install the Xorg driver from NVidea.
First, check to see if you do have DRI enabled by running
glxinfo and looking at the top of output. If you have the
nvidia driver installed properly it will look like this:

$ glxinfo | head -12
name of display: :0.0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.3
server glx extensions:
GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_SGIX_fbconfig,
GLX_SGIX_pbuffer, GLX_SGI_video_sync, GLX_SGI_swap_control,
GLX_ARB_multisample
client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
client glx version string: 1.3
client glx extensions:

Withtout the nvidia driver, it will look like this:

$ glxinfo | head -12
Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2
name of display: unix:0.0
display: unix:0 screen: 0
direct rendering: No
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.2
server glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating,
GLX_EXT_import_context, GLX_SGI_make_current_read, GLX_SGIS_multisample
client glx vendor string: SGI
client glx version string: 1.2
client glx extensions:
GLX_ARB_get_proc_address, GLX_ARB_multisample, GLX_EXT_import_context,

If you get the latter, then you need to install NVidia drivers.
I don't know if FC3 has NVidia driver packages. If not, you
can go to the NVidia web site and follow the instructions there.

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Old 02-27-2005
moma
 
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Default Re: hardware graphics acceleration

Me wrote:
> I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
> Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
> acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
> hardware accel?

Hello,

0) Visit http://www.futuredesktop.org/how2burn.html#mirrors
and browse down to Fedora block.
Follow the links to FC3 installation notes and guides.

--------------------------------------------------


Beneath is my own success installment:

1) Download NVIDIA driver from
http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux.html
Read the INSTALL and README files.
---------------------------------------------------


2) Terminate X-Server process
Logoff.
Press CNTR + ALT + F1 for a text console mode.
Login as "root".

Bring system to runlevel 3.
# init 3 (or try even: init 2)
....
X should be down now.
---------------------------------------------------


3) Install the NVidia driver.

# cd ~/download/what_ever

# sh NVIDIA-Linux-xXXYYY-1.0-6629-pkg1.run
.....

Bring system to runlevel 5.
It restarts all services, X-Server included.
# init 5

Goodtoknowcommand: runlevel
================================================== =


TEST & CHECK:

1) Run glxinfo. It will print "direct rendering:Yes" if hardware
acceleration is available.

# glxinfo | grep rendering
direct rendering: Yes
----------


2) OpenGL speed test:
# glxgears

39643 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7928.600 FPS
41615 frames in 5.0 seconds = 8323.000 FPS
67022 frames in 5.0 seconds = 13404.400 FPS (this is a 64bits...)
.....


The ultimate GL testers
$ tuxracer

$ foobillard


************************************************** ************


NOTE 1)

In case you need the kernel-source:

http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/mj...html#kernelsrc
( http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc3/x86/ )

----------------------------------------------------

NOTE 2)

If the Nvidia is not loaded at startup,
add "nvidia" line into /etc/modprobe.preload

# cat /etc/modprobe.preload
nvidia

and press CNTR + ALT + BACKSPACE.

((CNTR + ALT + NUMLOCK+ or NUMLOCK- ;)
---------------------------------------------------


// moma
http://www.futuredesktop.org/hpc_linux.html
http://www.futuredesktop.org/OpenOffice.html

----------------------------------------------------


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Old 02-27-2005
Bob Hauck
 
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Default Re: hardware graphics acceleration

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 10:56:45 -0600, Me <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:

> I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
> Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
> acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
> hardware accel?


By going to NVidia's web site and downloading and installing their
closed driver.


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Old 02-27-2005
Mark Hobley
 
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Me <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
> I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
> Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
> acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
> hardware accel?


The Nvidia cards do not support Open GL using the open source drivers at this
time.

It is recommended that the card is replaced with an ATI Radeon 9000.

Warning: Do not download drivers from the Nvidia website. These drivers are
not open source, and you will taint your kernel. This will cause you problems
with future system maintenance or upgrades.

Regards,

Mark.

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Old 02-27-2005
Dances With Crows
 
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:08:06 GMT, Mark Hobley staggered into the Black
Sun and said:
> Me <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
>> Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
>> acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
>> hardware accel?

> The Nvidia cards do not support Open GL using the open source drivers
> at this time. It is recommended that the card is replaced with an ATI
> Radeon 9000.


Point 1 is true; point 2 is silly. "Buy another graphics card because
the one you have isn't supported using Free modules" is not going to fly
in the real world--especially when the evil binary-only nVidia modules
are now easy to install and use no matter which kernel you're using.

> Warning: Do not download drivers from the Nvidia website. These
> drivers are not open source, and you will taint your kernel.


Way to spread FUD, eh? The average user doesn't give a damn; the
average user wants his hardware to work. The binary-only nVidia module
will taint the kernel, but that only means that if you get a kernel
OOPS, no kernel hacker will look at that OOPS unless you can reproduce
it without the nVidia module loaded. Of all the OOPSes I've seen, only
a couple were related to kernel bugs (VIA DMA problems in 2.3.99-2.4.4);
the rest were hardware problems.

> This will cause you problems with future system maintenance or
> upgrades.


Bollocks. I've been using the binary-only nVidia modules since they got
out of alpha, and I've *never* had a problem with system maintenance or
upgrades. The only thing you have to remember to do is rerun the nVidia
installer when you upgrade your kernel--that'll compile the module
against your new kernel headers so you can "modprobe nvidia" with the
new kernel. "emerge nvidia-kernel" does this for me, YDistroMV.

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Old 02-27-2005
Grant Edwards
 
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Default Re: hardware graphics acceleration

On 2005-02-27, Mark Hobley <markhobley@hotpop.deletethisbit.com> wrote:
> Me <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
>> Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
>> acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
>> hardware accel?

>
> The Nvidia cards do not support Open GL using the open source drivers at this
> time.
>
> It is recommended that the card is replaced with an ATI Radeon 9000.
>
> Warning: Do not download drivers from the Nvidia website. These drivers are
> not open source, and you will taint your kernel. This will cause you problems
> with future system maintenance or upgrades.


That's mostly FUD. I've been using the closed-source NVidia
drivers for years, and have never had any problems.

Last time around I did buy a board with an ATI 9250 because it
was cheap and it worked with the open-source DRI drivers.

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Old 02-28-2005
Brian
 
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On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:08:06 +0000, Mark Hobley wrote:

> It is recommended that the card is replaced with an ATI Radeon 9000.
>

Why was that, again?

> Warning: Do not download drivers from the Nvidia website. These drivers are
> not open source, and you will taint your kernel.
>

"taint" != "crash & burn"
"taint" != "make system suspicious & unreliable"

> This will cause you problems with future system maintenance or upgrades.
>

Balls. I've been running NVidia drivers for ages with no problem whatever
caused to maintenance or upgrades - kernel or otherwise. The only
problems I see are those caused by users not understanding what is
required to install the drivers.


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Old 02-28-2005
Douglas O'Neal
 
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Default Re: hardware graphics acceleration

Mark Hobley wrote:
> Me <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>>I've got a Nvidia Geforce3 Ti 200 card. The open GL screensavers on
>>Fedora core 3 are obviously not using my card's hardware graphics
>>acceleration. I'm seeing about 2 frames per second. How do I turn on
>>hardware accel?

>
>
> The Nvidia cards do not support Open GL using the open source drivers at this
> time.


Correct.

>
> It is recommended that the card is replaced with an ATI Radeon 9000.


Recommend by who?

>
> Warning: Do not download drivers from the Nvidia website. These drivers are
> not open source, and you will taint your kernel. This will cause you problems
> with future system maintenance or upgrades.


Not open source - true.
Will taint your kernel - true but so what?
Will cause you problems - possible, but I have not had any in the couple of years
I've been running with nvidia cards under gentoo.

>
> Regards,
>
> Mark.
>



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