Please don't laugh .. but how do I shutdown

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:32:00 -0500, John <dont@send.me.spam.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> New to Linux .. just installed Mandrake 10.0.
>
> I read the manual and it says to logout and I will get the
> following dlg with options :

> http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/Mandrak...#kde-logout-yn

> But, this dlg never appears .. instead I get a 'End Session for
> "UserID"' with the options Logout and Cancel. Logout, takes me
> back to the login screen. So I can't shutdown there.
>
> I tried the shutdown command from the shell and got a Command
> not Found message.
>
> From the Run Command dlg, I enter "shutdown" and press enter
> and get "Could not run the specified command".
>
> Is this me doing something wrong? Or is there something wrong
> with my setup?
>
> TIA, John
>
>

Shutdown has to be run as root.

# shutdown -h now

-r instead of -h to reboot

On my Debian box, Ctrl-Alt-Del will do the job. This is the line
in my /etc/inittab that causes it to work:

ca:12345:ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -h now

That will work as a normal user.

AC

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:32:00 -0500, John wrote:

> Hi,
>
> New to Linux .. just installed Mandrake 10.0.
>
> I read the manual and it says to logout and I will get the following dlg
> with options :
> http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/Mandrak...#kde-logout-yn
> But, this dlg never appears .. instead I get a 'End Session for "UserID"'
> with the options Logout and Cancel. Logout, takes me back to the login
> screen. So I can't shutdown there.
>
> I tried the shutdown command from the shell and got a Command not Found
> message.
>
> From the Run Command dlg, I enter "shutdown" and press enter and get "Could
> not run the specified command".
>
> Is this me doing something wrong? Or is there something wrong with my
> setup?
>
> TIA,
> John

That's pretty funny!
The only thing wrong with your setup is that you are way over your head
with the so called "user frinedly" Linux.

FWIW, just hit the BRS and let the wonderful Linux filesystems recover
your data, when and if they come up on the next boot.
HTH

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:35:45 -0500, Linda Wang wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 09:32:00 -0500, John wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> New to Linux .. just installed Mandrake 10.0.
>>
>> I read the manual and it says to logout and I will get the following dlg
>> with options :
>> http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/Mandrak...#kde-logout-yn
>> But, this dlg never appears .. instead I get a 'End Session for "UserID"'
>> with the options Logout and Cancel. Logout, takes me back to the login
>> screen. So I can't shutdown there.
>>
>> I tried the shutdown command from the shell and got a Command not Found
>> message.
>>
>> From the Run Command dlg, I enter "shutdown" and press enter and get "Could
>> not run the specified command".
>>
>> Is this me doing something wrong? Or is there something wrong with my
>> setup?
>>
>> TIA,
>> John
>
> That's pretty funny!
> The only thing wrong with your setup is that you are way over your head
> with the so called "user frinedly" Linux.
>
> FWIW, just hit the BRS and let the wonderful Linux filesystems recover
> your data, when and if they come up on the next boot.
> HTH

Or get a Real Distribution like Slackware. You know, with stuff that's
actually TESTED.

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Linda Wang wrote:
> That's pretty funny!
> The only thing wrong with your setup is that you are way over your head
> with the so called "user frinedly" Linux.
>
> FWIW, just hit the BRS and let the wonderful Linux filesystems recover
> your data, when and if they come up on the next boot.

On modern PCs with modern OSes, hitting the "BRS" will shut the machine
down gracefully.

I do hope that isn't over your head.

Paul

Linda Wang wrote:


>> I tried the shutdown command from the shell and got a Command not Found
>> message.
>>
>> From the Run Command dlg, I enter "shutdown" and press enter and get
>> "Could not run the specified command".
>>
>> Is this me doing something wrong? Or is there something wrong with my
>> setup?
>>
>> TIA,
>> John
>

No John, the question has been answered before so hopefully you know how to
do it now. If you are using KDE you can set your /etc/inittab file to use
kdm that will give you the ability to shut down from within kde.



> That's pretty funny!
> The only thing wrong with your setup is that you are way over your head
> with the so called "user frinedly" Linux.


Basically what you are saying is that Linux is way over YOUR head. The
numerous postings you have made about being unable to get it even going
proves that. It doesn't mean that it is over everyones head just those with
the iq of a sandlouse.

>
> FWIW, just hit the BRS and let the wonderful Linux filesystems recover
> your data, when and if they come up on the next boot.
> HTH

That's a windows solution for when the whole thing freezes.



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Shutting down is easy.

1) If in GUI (Gnome, KDE etc..) log out of it.
2) You will then either get a login manager screen like GDM or KDM so
chose shutdown from the system menu.
3) If logging out of the GUI puts you in a console, type 'halt' or hit
ctrl-alt-del to restart.

It's not rocket science.

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John wrote:


> If I su root; I can do it. But is that the norm? Shouldn't any user be
> able to shutdown the system? Is this because I set the security level to
> highest?
>
> Thanks,
> John

Set your security to standard, setting it high will limit
your access
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On 2004-12-21, John <dont@send.me.spam.com> wrote:

> When I log in as root it warns me that I should not be logging into a GUI as
> root unless I know what I'm doing ... which I obviously don't ;-)
>
> If I su root; I can do it. But is that the norm? Shouldn't any user be
> able to shutdown the system?

No; *nix is designed to be multi-user. Allowing anyone to shut down the
system could cause multiple other users problems.

That said, many modern distributions trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE to force an
orderly shutdown.

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John (john@os2.dhs.org)

In comp.os.linux.misc jafar <nomorev14gra@idontlike.spam> wrote:
> Shutting down is easy.
>
> 1) If in GUI (Gnome, KDE etc..) log out of it.
> 2) You will then either get a login manager screen like GDM or KDM so
> chose shutdown from the system menu.
> 3) If logging out of the GUI puts you in a console, type 'halt' or hit
> ctrl-alt-del to restart.
>
> It's not rocket science.

No, but shutdown, even from C-A-D, can be using the -a option which
requires the shutter-downer to be listed in /etc/shutdown.allow

Or..
visudo ALL = NOPASSWD: /sbin/halt

Now make a big red icon with that command.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 10:12:21 -0500, John
<dont@send.me.spam.com> wrote:
>
> "Davide Bianchi" <davideyeahsure@onlyforfun.net> wrote in message
> news:slrncsge9g.ekl.davideyeahsure@fogg.onlyforfun .net...
>> On 2004-12-21, John <dont@send.me.spam.com> wrote:
>>> with the options Logout and Cancel. Logout, takes me back to the login
>>> screen. So I can't shutdown there.
>>
>> There should be a "shutdown" in the lower part of the screen when you
>> are in the login screen. Failing that, press CTRL-ALT-F2, login as
>> root and then type 'shutdown -h now'.
>
> Thanks for the quick response.
>
> There are Reboot and Halt buttons, but they are greyed out.
>
> When I log in as root it warns me that I should not be logging into a GUI as
> root unless I know what I'm doing ... which I obviously don't ;-)
>
If you press ctrl-alt-f2 and log in, you won't be logging into a
GUI. Or you could press ctrl-alt-f2 and then ctrl-alt-delete. On most
systems, that will shutdown and reboot. You can hit the power button
when it starts to boot, or you can change the "shutdown -r now" in
/etc/inittab to "shutdown -h now".

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