Re: Top - Mem: 119212k used

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:12:35 -0400, bd <bdonlan@bd-home-comp.no-ip.org> wrote:
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> On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 17:29:24 +0000, Alan Connor wrote:
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>> On 27 Jul 2003 16:23:36 GMT, Davide Bianchi <davideyeahsure@onlyforfun.net> wrote:
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>>>
>>> Alan Connor <xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> I'm trying to figure out why my memory footprint is so large when I am
>>>> running NOTHING!
>>>
>>> Unused memory=wasted memory, use free, you'd probably discover tat
>>> most of the memory is cache.
>>>
>>> Davide
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>>
>> Yeh. That's a relief, but 60+megs to run nothing from a tty with X down,
>> still seems an awful lot....
>
> It'll make it run faster. If the memory is needed, it'll be freed
> instantaneously.
>


Freed from WHAT? It's not being used for anything anyway.

Alan



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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:39:48 +0000, Alan Connor wrote:

>>> Yeh. That's a relief, but 60+megs to run nothing from a tty with X down,
>>> still seems an awful lot....

>> It'll make it run faster. If the memory is needed, it'll be freed
>> instantaneously.

> Freed from WHAT? It's not being used for anything anyway.

I think they meant "freed from being used as cache" - but I think they
may have also misunderstood "60+megs" as "60+megs including cache". You
meant "60+megs after excluding cache", right?

Here's some data from your original /dev/vcs2 examination:

126528K total
7316K free
18932K buffers
45920K cached

This indicates 54360K in use, after excluding buffers and cache. Have
you itemized this usage by process?

On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:24:09 GMT, Ed Murphy <emurphy42@socal.rr.com> wrote:
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>> Freed from WHAT? It's not being used for anything anyway.
>
> I think they meant "freed from being used as cache" - but I think they
> may have also misunderstood "60+megs" as "60+megs including cache". You
> meant "60+megs after excluding cache", right?
>
> Here's some data from your original /dev/vcs2 examination:
>
> 126528K total
> 7316K free
> 18932K buffers
> 45920K cached
>
> This indicates 54360K in use, after excluding buffers and cache. Have
> you itemized this usage by process?
>

Been working on it, Ed.

I removed all the gettys but 2 from /etc/inittab, and when running from a tty
with screen, as I am at present, (X not up) I am using about 12 Megs of RAM,

When I bring up the xserver, open an xterm and use it to launch a graphical
browser (skipstone: REALLY need something smaller that's still graphical!)
mem usage goes up to 37 megs! (16 for the xserver alone. i'm using flwm, which
is the smallest window manager I could find.


Alan



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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:31:44 GMT, armin walland <geschrei@gmx.at> wrote:
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Fuck off. Killfiled.

Alan Connor <xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:31:44 GMT, armin walland <geschrei@gmx.at> wrote:

> Fuck off. Killfiled.

Killfiled for idiocy and swearing, in that order.

Peter

Alan Connor <xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx>,
In a message on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 17:29:54 GMT, wrote :

AC> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 16:24:09 GMT, Ed Murphy <emurphy42@socal.rr.com> wrote:
AC> >
AC> >
AC> >> Freed from WHAT? It's not being used for anything anyway.
AC> >
AC> > I think they meant "freed from being used as cache" - but I think they
AC> > may have also misunderstood "60+megs" as "60+megs including cache". You
AC> > meant "60+megs after excluding cache", right?
AC> >
AC> > Here's some data from your original /dev/vcs2 examination:
AC> >
AC> > 126528K total
AC> > 7316K free
AC> > 18932K buffers
AC> > 45920K cached
AC> >
AC> > This indicates 54360K in use, after excluding buffers and cache. Have
AC> > you itemized this usage by process?
AC> >
AC>
AC> Been working on it, Ed.
AC>
AC> I removed all the gettys but 2 from /etc/inittab, and when running from a tty
AC> with screen, as I am at present, (X not up) I am using about 12 Megs of RAM,
AC>
AC> When I bring up the xserver, open an xterm and use it to launch a graphical
AC> browser (skipstone: REALLY need something smaller that's still graphical!)
AC> mem usage goes up to 37 megs! (16 for the xserver alone. i'm using flwm, which
AC> is the smallest window manager I could find.

On my system:

sauron.deepsoft.com% free
total used free shared buffers
cached
Mem: 126744 123080 3664 0 2676 38608
-/+ buffers/cache: 81796 44948
Swap: 530136 68920 461216

I use fvwm2 as my window manager. I use real xterms
(/usr/bin/X11/xterm, not the 'fancy' xterms), and Mozilla. I have both
Postgres AND Apache running. I *don't* use any sort of graphical file
manager and use MicroEmacs 3.10 for editing.

AC>
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:39:28 +0000, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
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> On my system:
>
> sauron.deepsoft.com% free
> total used free shared buffers cached
>
> Mem: 126744 123080 3664 0 2676 38608
> -/+ buffers/cache: 81796 44948
> Swap: 530136 68920 461216
>
> I use fvwm2 as my window manager. I use real xterms
> (/usr/bin/X11/xterm, not the 'fancy' xterms), and Mozilla. I have both
> Postgres AND Apache running. I *don't* use any sort of graphical file
> manager and use MicroEmacs 3.10 for editing.
>

Yeh. I use a real xterm too. But am going to go to a smaller one because I
don't use it for anything but calling x-apps. Much prefer screen.

That's a pretty small footprint for all of that.

What do you think of mc?


Alan

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Alan Connor <xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx>,
In a message on Tue, 29 Jul 2003 19:12:17 GMT, wrote :

AC> On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 18:39:28 +0000, Robert Heller <heller@deepsoft.com> wrote:
AC> >
AC> >
AC> > On my system:
AC> >
AC> > sauron.deepsoft.com% free
AC> > total used free shared buffers cached
AC> >
AC> > Mem: 126744 123080 3664 0 2676 38608
AC> > -/+ buffers/cache: 81796 44948
AC> > Swap: 530136 68920 461216
AC> >
AC> > I use fvwm2 as my window manager. I use real xterms
AC> > (/usr/bin/X11/xterm, not the 'fancy' xterms), and Mozilla. I have both
AC> > Postgres AND Apache running. I *don't* use any sort of graphical file
AC> > manager and use MicroEmacs 3.10 for editing.
AC> >
AC>
AC> Yeh. I use a real xterm too. But am going to go to a smaller one because I
AC> don't use it for anything but calling x-apps. Much prefer screen.
AC>
AC> That's a pretty small footprint for all of that.
AC>
AC> What do you think of mc?

Never used it.

AC>
AC>
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