I loathe to ask this ... but I have to use outlook for email now

Okay, swallow the bullet and cringe then ask ...

I use Linux and FreeBSD at work for all the serious stuff, as one should
when they are a unix systems engineer.

I have had a windows pc at the side of my Linux w/station for a couple of
years that I have only ever used for compiling the couple of windows
programs that we deploy.

Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next week,
it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now start using a
ms exchange based mail server via outlook.

So does anyone know how I can transfer years of historic emails from my
kmail system to outlook?

TIA,
Pep.

In article <bf9505$m7k$1@phys-news-1.colt-telecom.nl>, Peter Walker wrote:

> Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next week,
> it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now start using a
> ms exchange based mail server via outlook.

If you are allowed to install stuff, Evolution can work with an exchange
server, using a plugin from Ximian. Not much help if you can't install
Evolution, or the plugin.

> So does anyone know how I can transfer years of historic emails from my
> kmail system to outlook?

Forward it all to yourself, and download it using outlook.

That might bring the outlook server to it's knees though.

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"Even for an alien, this one is pretty alien." (Dr. Kyle, B5 "The Gathering")

On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:48:09 +0100, Peter Walker wrote:

> Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next week,
> it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now start using a
> ms exchange based mail server via outlook.

You do have a choice. Exchange Server supports both pop3 and IMAP but
they are not enabled by default. Encourage your MCSE to enable at least
pop3 and you can continue to use kmail.

Peter Walker <Pep@ticketweb.co.uk> wrote:
: Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next week,
: it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now start using a
: ms exchange based mail server via outlook.

: So does anyone know how I can transfer years of historic emails from my
: kmail system to outlook?

I'm neither KMail nor Outlook user, but I wandered by an Outlook
installation and see that it can import mail from
Eudora and Netscape Mail.

Don't know about Netscape Mail, but
Eudora uses std ascii mailbox like most unix programs ( elm, mutt, etc.)

so if KMail also has unix std ascii mailboxs then you can likely
pull them directly into Outlook. If KMail is something else you may
need to figure out how to get it into std ascii mailboxes.

Stan



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www.worldbadminton.com

Dave {Reply Address in.sig} wrote:

> In message <bf9505$m7k$1@phys-news-1.colt-telecom.nl>, Peter Walker wrote:
>
>> Okay, swallow the bullet and cringe then ask ...
>>
>> I use Linux and FreeBSD at work for all the serious stuff, as one should
>> when they are a unix systems engineer.
>>
>> I have had a windows pc at the side of my Linux w/station for a couple of
>> years that I have only ever used for compiling the couple of windows
>> programs that we deploy.
>>
>> Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next
>> week, it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now start
>> using a ms exchange based mail server via outlook.
>>
>> So does anyone know how I can transfer years of historic emails from my
>> kmail system to outlook?
>>
> I'm sort of in a similar situation where I was transferring email from
> kmail to evolution. An IMAP server is your friend, if that's not what
> you've been using then install a temporary one somewhere, set up a mail
> account on it, connect to it with kmail and copy all your folders across.
> You can then connect to it with Outlook and copy the mail across to your
> new mail server.
>
> Note that MS Exchange does work as an IMAP server, assuming they've
> configured it properly, so you might just be able to arrange to connect to
> that from kmail and copy stuff across that way. Get your IT people to
> leave the old server accessible for a week or two to ease the changeover.
>
> Dave

Sounds an interesting way of doing the transfer, so I might give this a try.

If it does not work then Stan (further down in the thread) pointed out that
I might be able to mug outlook in to thinking the kmail folders are eudora
as they are both ascii files.

Cheers,
Pep.

Dave Uhring wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:48:09 +0100, Peter Walker wrote:
>
>> Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next
>> week, it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now start
>> using a ms exchange based mail server via outlook.
>
> You do have a choice. Exchange Server supports both pop3 and IMAP but
> they are not enabled by default. Encourage your MCSE to enable at least
> pop3 and you can continue to use kmail.

The problem with this is that my Linux and windows w/stations are on
different lans and the lan that the exchange server is on is not accessible
to the lan my Linux box is on due to security constraints.

Pep.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:44:00 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

> In article <bfghvp$oau$3@phys-news-1.colt-telecom.nl>, Peter Walker wrote:

>> The problem with this is that my Linux and windows w/stations
>> are on different lans and the lan that the exchange server is
>> on is not accessible to the lan my Linux box is on due to
>> security constraints.
>
> If they won't allow _any_ sort of connection at all between the
> networks, then you're screwed. If they allows connections to
> any TCP ports (80? 23?), then there's still hope. Otherwise,
> perhaps it's time to look for a job where the place isn't run
> by Nazis...

Amen to that.

Until then, do as others have suggested and re-mail your saved messages to
yourself. I have no idea of the format Outhouse uses so that is the
method most likely to preserve those messages.

Dave Uhring wrote:

> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:44:00 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> In article <bfghvp$oau$3@phys-news-1.colt-telecom.nl>, Peter Walker
>> wrote:
>
>>> The problem with this is that my Linux and windows w/stations
>>> are on different lans and the lan that the exchange server is
>>> on is not accessible to the lan my Linux box is on due to
>>> security constraints.
>>
>> If they won't allow _any_ sort of connection at all between the
>> networks, then you're screwed. If they allows connections to
>> any TCP ports (80? 23?), then there's still hope. Otherwise,
>> perhaps it's time to look for a job where the place isn't run
>> by Nazis...

LOL.

>
> Amen to that.
>
> Until then, do as others have suggested and re-mail your saved messages to
> yourself. I have no idea of the format Outhouse uses so that is the
> method most likely to preserve those messages.

There are far too many emails to resend to myself.

I think I'll just go the route suggested and either transfer the email
folders via imap or transfer the folders via netscape and a bit of
tinkering.

Cheers,
Pep.

Grant Edwards wrote:

> In article <pan.2003.07.18.15.58.57.530598@yahoo.com>, Dave Uhring wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 16:48:09 +0100, Peter Walker wrote:
>>
>>> Now I have been told that our unix mail server is being removed next
>>> week, it's been threatened for ages, so I have no choice but to now
>>> start using a ms exchange based mail server via outlook.
>>
>> You do have a choice. Exchange Server supports both pop3 and IMAP but
>> they are not enabled by default. Encourage your MCSE to enable at least
>> pop3 and you can continue to use kmail.
>
> Go for IMAP as a first choice -- POP3 in ES isn't reported to
> work very well.
>

I'd suggest this as well. I did the reverse (yay!) and went from W2k/outlook
(with thousands of mail) to Linux/kmail. I set up an imap server on my
linux machine, set-up outlook to access that imap folder and moved all the
mail to imap server. The unexpected side benefit is not I can access my
mail folders from anywhere and file them as appropriate. If you are running
a unix machine (you said you are a unix engineer right :), setup an imap
server (I use Cyrus-imapd) and do the reverse.

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