How do linux users tolerate this crap !?

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 23:17:43 +0000, Mr Paul wrote:

> He posted the same sort of crap on c.o.l.m.
>
> Paul

Sorry, didn't check headers and follow-ups. Apologies.

Paul

On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:48:55 -0700, ray wrote:

> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:57:58 -0600, problems wrote:
>> With my proper ETH-oberon system, I just 'wipe' "howling" in text-frame
>> File1 & hit 'Search' in text-frame File2 - without looking at the
>> keyboard.
>>
>>
> 1) so what the f**k is ETH-oberon?
> 2) if you prefer ETH-oberon, why don't you just use it? As far as I
> know, no one is holding a gun to your head. 3) most folks using Linux
> run a GUI, so mucking with VTs is pretty much irrelevant.


Anyone remember Alan Connor? Sounds like he needs a new 'script.

problems@gmail wrote:
> Here's a typical simple task, where the linux tools requires
> jumping-thru-hoops. I've got File1 with 4 lines of:
> http://<URL1>
> ..
> http://<URL4>,
> where I want to know if I've already "fetched the 4 'pages'
> and appended then to File2.
>
> Especially since It's not easy to find the appending boundries
> automatically, ie. without human reading, a method of kowing
> if the 4 URL's contents are in File2 is to just select some part
> of the URLs which is likely to be contained in File2 *IFF*
> File2 contains the page.
>
> Eg. if 1 URL was '..wiki-wolves-howling' then it's likely
> that "howling' is to be found in File2 - else NOT.
>
> With my proper ETH-oberon system, I just 'wipe'
> "howling" in text-frame File1 & hit 'Search' in text-frame
> File2 - without looking at the keyboard.
>
> With linux-crap I must:
> 1. find which VT currently shows File1 or else open it;
> 2. switch to which VT currently shows File2 or else open it;
> 3. look at the key-brd & clanck-clanck scroll down;
> 4. wait for half a second for gpm to show that it's ready
> to start 'cuttting';
> 5. try again when gpm shows funny symptoms;
> 6. switch to which VT currently shows File2;
> 7. look for the 'search' <F7> on the key-brd;
> 8. paste the search-string cut from stage 4;
> 9. relise that the required string was not cut;
> 10. go back to step 1 to repeat - try again!
>
> Since I'm not one for eye-candy, perhaps I shouldn't
> mention that my linux/X/VT/mc/mcedit shows white
> chars on blue background, which glare/reflect/irritate
> whereas an ETH-oberon mininal editor [& OS] on a 1.4MB
> writes black on light grey background. And is a pleasure to
> use. That why my complaints are so wordy !
>
> == Chris Glur.
>

If you are trying to hammer in a nail with a screw driver just because
you don't know of a hammer, then you should learn about the available
tools before attempting (and complaining about) anything.

--
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CptDondo <yan@nsoesipnaemr.com> did eloquently scribble:
> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:48:55 -0700, ray wrote:

>> On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 09:57:58 -0600, problems wrote:
>>> With my proper ETH-oberon system, I just 'wipe' "howling" in text-frame
>>> File1 & hit 'Search' in text-frame File2 - without looking at the
>>> keyboard.
>>>
>>>
>> 1) so what the f**k is ETH-oberon?
>> 2) if you prefer ETH-oberon, why don't you just use it? As far as I
>> know, no one is holding a gun to your head. 3) most folks using Linux
>> run a GUI, so mucking with VTs is pretty much irrelevant.


> Anyone remember Alan Connor? Sounds like he needs a new 'script.

Shhhhhh!
Don't.... mention... his name!!
His sooper dooper psychic powers he gained from his visit to the elves in
dingly dell will alert him and he'll come back here!
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2007 09:15:14 +0000, spike1 wrote:

>> Anyone remember Alan Connor? Sounds like he needs a new 'script.

> Shhhhhh!
> Don't.... mention... his name!!
> His sooper dooper psychic powers he gained from his visit to the elves in
> dingly dell will alert him and he'll come back here!

He's already back. He goes by the name "Tom N" now.


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"Ubuntu" -- an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

Joseph H. Rosevear wrote:
> In alt.os.linux.slackware problems@gmail wrote:
>> Here's a typical simple task, where the linux tools requires
>> jumping-thru-hoops. I've got File1 with 4 lines of:
>> http://<URL1>
>> ..
>> http://<URL4>,
>> where I want to know if I've already "fetched the 4 'pages'
>> and appended then to File2.
>
>> Especially since It's not easy to find the appending boundries
>> automatically, ie. without human reading, a method of kowing
>> if the 4 URL's contents are in File2 is to just select some part
>> of the URLs which is likely to be contained in File2 *IFF*
>> File2 contains the page.
>
>> Eg. if 1 URL was '..wiki-wolves-howling' then it's likely
>> that "howling' is to be found in File2 - else NOT.
>
>> With my proper ETH-oberon system, I just 'wipe'
>> "howling" in text-frame File1 & hit 'Search' in text-frame
>> File2 - without looking at the keyboard.
>
> [snip]
>
>> == Chris Glur.
>
> Chris,
>
> I had never heard of ETH-oberon, so I searched in Altavista and found
> this Wikipedia site:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_operating_system
>
> It says:
>
>> Oberon is an operating system, originally developed as part of the
>> NS32032-based Ceres workstation project; it is written entirely in the
>> Oberon programming language.
>
> [snip]
>
>> The user interface is neither a GUI nor quite a command line
>> interface, but is tied closely to naming conventions in Oberon (the
>> language). It does not have a prompt or anything similar, but any text
>> appearing on the screen can be edited and used as command input. This
>> is a radical approach that takes some time to get accustomed to. It
>> has not been very influential among more recent operating systems.
>
> So, now I understand the confusion. It says above that Oberon uses a
> "radical approach that takes some time to get accustomed to." I take
> it that you have gotten used to it and like it.
>
> This is interesting. I had never heard of Oberon. Perhaps someday
> I'll give it a try. I also read this at the Wikipedia site:
>
>> The Oberon OS is available for several other hardware platforms,
>> generally in no cost versions. It is typically extremely compact. Even
>> with an Oberon compiler, assorted utilities including a Web browser,
>> TCP/IP networking, and a GUI, the entire package has been able to fit
>> on a single 3.5" floppy disk. The version which runs on bare PC
>> hardware is called Native Oberon.
>
> I like the part about "extremely compact".
>
> I'm curious about something, since I'm a serious command-line user.
> Does Oberon allow one to write and execute scripts? Does it even have
> command syntax?
>
> -Joe

Here's the project site:
http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/

Interesting but not that useful for what i do.

ray wrote:
--snip----
>
> 1) so what the f**k is ETH-oberon?
----snip---

check out: http://www.oberon.ethz.ch/