Google groups abuse reporting

Has anyone ever posted a spam complaint to Goolge regarding Google Groups
spam? More specifically the crud that been coming out of China selling
sneakers? If not why not?
http://groups.google.com/support/bin...earch=Continue

Also since the email addresses given are yahoo and hotmail has anyone
reported abuse to them?

And lastly if you all would stop buying the stuff maybe they'd stop
posting it.

as always,

PS - yes I have and no it hasn't accomplished anything (yet)
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google011013 wrote:
>
>Has anyone ever posted a spam complaint to Goolge regarding Google Groups
>spam? More specifically the crud that been coming out of China selling
>sneakers? If not why not?

Because Google Groups ignores all abuse reports. Spamming, flooding,
forging, it's all OK with them. They are evil.

>Also since the email addresses given are yahoo and hotmail has anyone
>reported abuse to them?

Not a lot of point. Most of them are forged, and the rest are
throwaways -- yahoo and hotmail allow the abuser to create a
new email address if the old one is shut down.

>And lastly if you all would stop buying the stuff maybe they'd stop
>posting it.

They only need a tiny fraction of a percent to respond to make
a profit.

>PS - yes I have and no it hasn't accomplished anything (yet)

As expected.

The only *effective* method is to get your local newspaper to
print an article about Google (Motto: "don't be evil") being
evil. Nothing else will get throught to them.

On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:58:58 GMT, google011013 wrote:
> Has anyone ever posted a spam complaint to Goolge regarding Google Groups
> spam? More specifically the crud that been coming out of China selling
> sneakers? If not why not?
> ....
> PS - yes I have and no it hasn't accomplished anything (yet)

As shared experience with _all_ who have preceded you.

On 13 Aug 2007 02:30:53 GMT, Allodoxaphobia <bit-bucket@config.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Aug 2007 17:58:58 GMT, google011013 wrote:
>> Has anyone ever posted a spam complaint to Goolge regarding Google Groups
>> spam? More specifically the crud that been coming out of China selling
>> sneakers? If not why not?
>> ....
>> PS - yes I have and no it hasn't accomplished anything (yet)
>
> As shared experience with _all_ who have preceded you.

Learn to killfile googlegroups. How sad that google, usually focused
on user experience, ruins our usenet experience by allowing spammers
run unfettered.

i

google011013 wrote:
>
> Has anyone ever posted a spam complaint to Goolge regarding Google
> Groups spam? More specifically the crud that been coming out of
> China selling sneakers? If not why not?

Because Google just ignores such reports. They don't bar the
spammers from further posting.

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On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article
<46C0C387.62EA8A76@yahoo.com>, CBFalconer wrote:

>google011013 wrote:

>> Has anyone ever posted a spam complaint to Goolge regarding Google
>> Groups spam? More specifically the crud that been coming out of
>> China selling sneakers?

I've got a feeling that this may be a troll abusing an open relay in
China. I really don't think that even a regular spammer is st00pid
enough to think that sending identical copies of a spam is going to
get customers. Either none of the messages hit a killfile, or they
all do - so sending 25 or 50 copies of the same message serves no
purpose in getting past filters.

>Because Google just ignores such reports. They don't bar the
>spammers from further posting.

So what are YOU[1] going to do about it? Have you filed complaints
with your news server, and asking them to de-peer with google? Have
you stopped using (and recommending to others) google and their many
services? Google only has about sixty IP blocks out of ARIN, and a
few I haven't bothered with from RIPE and APNIC. If they don't want
be a responsible Internet neighbor, then why should you be adding to
their bottom line by visiting their sites?

Old guy

[1] The journalistic "you", not Chuck, or anyone else specifically.

Moe Trin (ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld) writes:
>
> I've got a feeling that this may be a troll abusing an open relay in
> China. I really don't think that even a regular spammer is st00pid
> enough to think that sending identical copies of a spam is going to
> get customers. Either none of the messages hit a killfile, or they
> all do - so sending 25 or 50 copies of the same message serves no
> purpose in getting past filters.
>
Yes, it's too deliberate here. If it was happening on the same
level in at least some other newsgroups I read, then I'd think it's
some nutcase spammer. But it's too targetted here, and there are
far better newsgroups to obnoxiously spam for the spammer who actually
thinks they will attract business with their spam.

Michael

Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>:
>
> So what are YOU[1] going to do about it? Have you filed complaints
> with your news server, and asking them to de-peer with google? Have

Who, me? I'm going to ignore anything originating from GG, and
anything replying to it. No, I'm certainly not going to bother
complaining to Google. You do it, if you feel the need. And Hotmail
can go fsck themselves.

> [1] The journalistic "you", not Chuck, or anyone else specifically.

I want the old Usenet back, damnit! :-P


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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.misc, in article
<slrnfccqh9.s2l.keeling@heretic.nucleus.com>, s. keeling wrote:

>Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>:
>
>> So what are YOU[1] going to do about it? Have you filed complaints
>> with your news server, and asking them to de-peer with google?

>Who, me?

Yes, you - and everyone else using Usenet.

>I'm going to ignore anything originating from GG, and anything replying
>to it.

Easy enough to do, but it doesn't solve the problem.

>No, I'm certainly not going to bother complaining to Google. You do it,
>if you feel the need.

Read it again - I didn't suggest complaining to google, which is a black
hole for complaints. A more useful thing to do is to complain to YOUR
news provider - after all, you're their customer. If you can get your
news provider to de-peer, and a few dozen others, google may eventually
get the message. In the mean time, have you also stopped using and/or
recommending use of google. That reduces their ad revenue, and THAT will
get their attention.

>And Hotmail can go fsck themselves.

Hotmail was part of microsoft, right? Microsoft IP space has been blocked
here for several years. (64.4.0.0/18, 65.52.0.0/14. 207.46.0.0/16 and
204.231.194.0 - 204.231.223.255 gets rid of a lot of crap).

>I want the old Usenet back, damnit! :-P

Yeah, well I want 21 cent/gallon gasoline like it was when I bought my
first car. I don't think either is going to happen very soon.

Old guy

Moe Trin <ibuprofin@painkiller.example.tld>:
>
> Read it again - I didn't suggest complaining to google, which is a black
> hole for complaints. A more useful thing to do is to complain to YOUR
> news provider - after all, you're their customer. If you can get your

Point taken. That is a good idea. Let the uprising begin!


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