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Re: [courier-users] Outbound esmtp / smarthost

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Old 06-17-2008
Jesper Langkjær
 
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Hi.

On Monday 16 June 2008, Jesper Langkjær wrote:
>> I've been using Default Smarthost for mail relaying, but now I got an
>> second domain and this domain should not use the Default Smarthost. Any way
>> that I can do this ?


>You want to send mail *TO* a specific domain to some special smarthost? That's
>the thing that esmtproutes is for.



>Or do you want to send mail with a specific sender's domain be relayed to some
>special smarthost? This would be tricky.


That was what I was thinking.

The problem is that we have to domains on this server and one of them use an extern spam/antivirus provider, and they scan both incoming and out going.
But the other one do not have such a service, nor would they pay for one.

/Jesper

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Old 06-17-2008
Sam Varshavchik
 
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Jesper Langkjær writes:

>>Or do you want to send mail with a specific sender's domain be relayed to some
>>special smarthost? This would be tricky.

>
> That was what I was thinking.
>
> The problem is that we have to domains on this server and one of them use an extern spam/antivirus provider, and they scan both incoming and out going.
> But the other one do not have such a service, nor would they pay for one.


You do realize that anyone can put anything in their From: header, so if
someone finds out about this, they can easily work they way around this.

From: headers are untrusted, and should not be used for any kind of
policy-making decisions.



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Old 06-17-2008
Bernd Wurst
 
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Hi.

On Tuesday 17 June 2008, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > The problem is that we have to domains on this server and one of them use
> > an extern spam/antivirus provider, and they scan both incoming and out
> > going. But the other one do not have such a service, nor would they pay
> > for one.


If anyone in this world needs outbound virus scanning, they should not be
given internet-access. Perhaps you can inform them, that viruses typically
don't use any smarthost (you) but send theiy crap directly.

Outbound virus scanning is just to make annoying "this has been scanned by
SurelyNotCheap virus protection" and things like that.


> You do realize that anyone can put anything in their From: header, so if
> someone finds out about this, they can easily work they way around this.
> From: headers are untrusted, and should not be used for any kind of
> policy-making decisions.


Well, authentication-accounts should be suitable for this.
But I do not know how this could work with Courier.

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Old 06-18-2008
Gordon Messmer
 
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Bernd Wurst wrote:
> If anyone in this world needs outbound virus scanning, they should not be
> given internet-access. Perhaps you can inform them, that viruses typically
> don't use any smarthost (you) but send theiy crap directly.
>


Calm down, man. There are plenty of people who believe that the best
way to combat email viruses is to disallow outbound TCP connections to
port 25 from systems other than the SMTP server, and additionally scan
outgoing messages at the SMTP server. Layering security is good. It
mitigates the risk posed by direct-mail viruses as well as the viruses
that infect files that people exchange and those that use Outlook as a
mail transport. The latter weren't miraculously eradicated when viruses
started sending mail on their own.


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