[courier-users] 454 TLS not available.

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I apologize, I was in a hurry and I miss this sometimes with Gmail - their
system doesn't display the subject by default. I didn't think about the
message ID, that's interesting... I've not seen messages thread based on
message ID before.

Anyway, I appreciate the reponse. This is what I thought and I've been
telling the customer that the other mail servers are busted, however,
they're getting e-mail from other servers - just not this particular Courier
system.

I'm wondering if there's a way to tell Courier to NEVER use STARTTLS, even
when its advertised?

Thanks,

D

On 6/28/06, Arno <arno@disconnect.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> First of all, please don't reply to messages, replace the entire content
> and
> dont change the subject at least... It's still not the best way to reply
> to
> something while replacing the subject, because many mail clients thread
> messages by their message id, but that's another part of the netiquette...
>
> > I have an installation of Courier that is a "bit" old, and while talking
> to
> > serveral different mail servers, I'm getting messages like:
> >
> > 454 TLS not available
> >
> > and then the message is deferred, forever.
> >
> > I have looked at the settings in esmtp-ssl and checked to make sure the
>
> I'm venturing a guess here: It has nothing to do with your own mail
> server. It
> is the other mailserver advertising STARTTLS capabilities, but not really
> supporting it. So your mailserver gets an error when trying the STARTTLS
> command. In other words: the other mailservers are broken and you should
> get
> the admin of those servers to fix theirs...
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Arno.
>
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I apologize, I was in a hurry and I miss this sometimes with Gmail - their system doesn't display the subject by default.&nbsp; I didn't think about the message ID, that's interesting...&nbsp; I've not seen messages thread based on message ID before.
<br><br>Anyway, I appreciate the reponse.&nbsp; This is what I thought and I've been telling the customer that the other mail servers are busted, however, they're getting e-mail from other servers - just not this particular Courier system.
<br><br>I'm wondering if there's a way to tell Courier to NEVER use STARTTLS, even when its advertised?<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>D<br><br><div><s pan class="gmail_quote">On 6/28/06, <b class="gmail_sendername">Arno</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:arno@disconnect.de">
arno@disconnect.de</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Hi,<br><br>First of all, please don't reply to messages, replace the entire content and
<br>dont change the subject at least... It's still not the best way to reply to<br>something while replacing the subject, because many mail clients thread<br>messages by their message id, but that's another part of the netiquette...
<br><br>&gt; I have an installation of Courier that is a &quot;bit&quot; old, and while talking to<br>&gt; serveral different mail servers, I'm getting messages like:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; 454 TLS not available<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and then the message is deferred, forever.
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I have looked at the settings in esmtp-ssl and checked to make sure the<br><br>I'm venturing a guess here: It has nothing to do with your own mail server. It<br>is the other mailserver advertising STARTTLS capabilities, but not really
<br>supporting it. So your mailserver gets an error when trying the STARTTLS<br>command. In other words: the other mailservers are broken and you should get<br>the admin of those servers to fix theirs...<br><br>--<br>Regards,
<br><br>Arno.<br><br>Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security?<br>Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier<br>Download IBM WebSphere Application Server
v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo<br><a href="http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&amp;kid=120709&amp;bid=263057&amp;dat= 121642">http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&amp;kid=120709&amp;bid=263057&amp;dat= 121642</a><br>
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