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Old 06-03-2005
Gordon Messmer
 
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On Jun 2, 2005, at 6:57 AM, Bill Taroli wrote:

>
> I learned recently that my employer's IT organization has decided
> it best for the MX to process all mail as if it were successful
> even when it's final disposition isn't. It neither returns 5xx
> (such as on bad address) nor do the subsequent MTA's and MDA's
> generate DSN's. Is this acceptable, or even suggested, practice?


I suppose that depends on what your goals are. Personally, I think
hiding the fate of accepted mail is detrimental to communications.
Additionally, as dictionaries containing all of your invalid
addresses become available, you're going to start seeing much higher
volumes of incoming mail. This is going to raise the cost of your
mail system by consuming more bandwidth, and eventually requiring
more hardware just to accept and discard mail.

> I'm curious to hear what others are doing in this regard.


I actually go out of my way to make sure that we only accept mail for
real users. We use an external mail processing system from Sophos
(PureMessage, a very good product) which uses Sendmail as a
component. I'm able to export a list of valid users and aliases from
our private mail system to a virtual user list on the sendmail
installation so that the system only accepts mail for those addresses
in a configuration which is basically just a mail relay.


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