Re: [courier-users] SpamAssassin during SMTP dialog

Jay Lee schrieb:

>Dirk Kulmsee said:
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>>Bill Taroli schrieb:
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>>>Dirk Kulmsee wrote:
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>>>>Bill Taroli schrieb:
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>>>>>Wiebke Doerper wrote:
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>>>>>>I would like to use SpamAssassin during the SMTP dialog, to discard=

>>>>>>everything with a high spam rating. I know some people have been
>>>>>>thinking of implementing this. Does someone have a working
>>>>>>courier(perl)filter to do it?
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>>>>>
>>>>>Well, I'm not sure it's what you had in mind... but I've been
>>>>>running Amavis as a global filter for a while now. In my case, I
>>>>>prefer to just have it do virus scanning... but if you wanted spam
>>>>>rejected similarly, it can easily accomplish that.
>>>>>
>>>>>If someone had a more direct integration of spamc/spamd as a filter,=

>>>>>then it might be a lot more efficient...
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>>>>We all would love to block spam at the earliest stage, but at least
>>>>here in Good ol' Germany you are half way in Jail if you do so.
>>>>Mail & letters are PERSONAL and you may not intrude. So we filter
>>>>SPAM and put it into a seperate folder which POP3 users don't get.
>>>>Every user is still able to log in via webmail and check his SPAM
>>>>folder if she/ he misses something.
>>>>
>>>>How do you (all) do it?
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>>>Oh, note that I said that actually only use the global filter for
>>>viruses... meaning that I only reject messages during submit IF they
>>>contain a virus. For spam, I instead call spamc/spamd from within
>>>Maildrop (globally), and put suspected SPAM into a folder that users
>>>can review normally. I also set expiration so that if they don't
>>>review them after a while, they are cleaned up. In my opinion, spam
>>>filters aren't quite exact enough to be sure that always what gets
>>>labeled is in fact spam -- or that what is spam for one person isn't
>>>perfectly acceptable for someone else. So I take a more cautious
>>>approach to that type of filtering.
>>>
>>>Bill Taroli
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>>Marvellous! That's our way too. We use Dr.Web as a virus scanner and
>>Spamassassin & Affiliates (Razor & DCC) as SPAM Filter.
>>Any better ideas around ?
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>I just wrote a little blurb on the new unofficial Courier Wiki about
>configuring maildrop/SpamAssassin so that users can configure spam
>messages higher than a certain score to be "nuked". The admin can have
>them deleted immediately or (like I do) save them to a admin folder for =
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>checking on occassion. Here's the details:
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>http://courier.opensrc.org/index.php...inWithMaildrop
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>with some perl scripting, one could probably get something similar with
>Spamassassin at SMTP time, where user's configure a spam threshold
>(something like 5) and a nuke threshold (something like 15). Messages
>that score over the user's nuke threshold would be rejected by the MTA. =

>Personally though, rejecting messages at the SMTP level scares me. I'd
>lie in bed and wonder, is my MTA rejecting all messages because my Spam
>filter broke?
>
>Jay
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This is GREAT input to the discussion on your URL Jay! ThanX! This in=20
turn calls for Eduardo Roldan who's QUICA interface we love...
I mean where should we put in the user scores if not in a quica database =
;-)

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