Re: lame server resolving - repeats 280 times

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Old 11-23-2004
Bill Larson
 
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Default Re: lame server resolving - repeats 280 times

There really isn't much that you can do about this, unless you are
managing the server for the domains that are being logged as "lame".
This is just a fact of life when dealing with DNS.

Somebody is asking your server for DNS information and your server is
contacting servers that are identified as "authoritative" for a zone
but aren't. This is the definition of a "lame server".

Now, there are a few things that you could do to help yourself out.

First, you could complain to the person responsible for the DNS
services for the zones that are identified as lame. You can get this
information by running "dig ZONE SOA" to get the SOA record for the
zone. Now, at the moment, it appears to me that the root servers for
the ".us" TLD are broken, so this may be part of your problem and there
really isn't anything that you can do about this.

Second, you could simply ignore these "lame server" messages. This is
what is commonly done. You can even define a logging category for lame
servers and send this information to /dev/null. This would use the
category "lameservers" and could have a configuration similar to:

category "lameservers" { "null"; };

The problem is that this would cause you to loose any of this lame
server information, which may be important.

Third, you are getting hammered by somebody. 850 queries/sec, your
440000 queries per 15 minutes, is a lot, although your server should
easily be able to handle it. I'd spend some time trying to find out
who is doing this and why. I would suspect that this may be somebody's
web server that is trying to log the name for every connection being
made to it. Your log is indicating that there are 379 times is under
two seconds. I'd have a hard time believing that there are that many
people trying to get to the same site at the same time, although I
could be easily wrong. Notice also the IP addresses that these queries
are coming from, 4.2.49.2, and 4.2.49.4. Both of these IP addresses
are servers for gtei.net.

Now, to get back to the first point. It appears that there is a
definite problem with the "tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us" zone. By tracking
down this zone using DNS, the last functioning delegation appears to be
from the "i2.state.de.us" server, and it reports that this zone is
supposed to be served by "knock.ser.bbnplanet.net" and
"chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us". The BBNPlanet server doesn't provide
any information for this zone and there is no IP address for the
"tower-hill" server. So, things are really broken and there really is
nothing that you can do about it.

If your server is only a DNS server, not running Apache, SMTP, or other
service, you shouldn't be getting pegged at 90% CPU. The only thing
that you can do is to try and limit your workload. This can be done by
trying to simplify your client base. If you have legitimate clients
using your server, talk nicely to the administrator and have them shut
down any additional DNS queries that aren't really necessary. (Web
logging can record just IP addresses and then the log files can be
post-processed to identify heavy users and then the IP addresses of the
heavy users can be looked up - but only once. Or, they can operate
their own DNS services, which would actually be an advantage to them
because they wouldn't have to be talking on the network all of the time
to your servers to get DNS information, especially with repetitive
queries.)

Finally, since you do say that this is a caching server, you appear to
be responding recursively to queries outside of your network. You
should configure your server to provide recursive DNS services to only
your legitimate clients, not the world. Let the world provide their
own DNS servers and not load down your system.

These "lame server" query logs indicate that these queries are coming
from:

200.72.1.253
200.72.1.254
211.134.181.104
211.134.181.105
212.100.224.247
212.187.158.3
216.49.80.74
4.2.49.2
4.2.49.4
66.199.248.202
66.199.248.203

This is a large set of networks that you seem to be responding to.
This doesn't sound like you are trying to limit your queries at all. I
would suspect that someone has discovered that you are providing DNS
services to anyone that asks and they are taking advantage of this.

Anyway, hope this helps you out some.

Bill Larson

On Nov 23, 2004, at 10:05 AM, Duane J. Von Lanken wrote:

> I am running HPUX 11.11 with Bind 9.2.0, this server is set up as a
> caching only server and has approx 440,000 queries per 15 minutes. I
> recently started getting about 110,000 failed queries per 15 minutes.
> Usually they run on average about 10-12,000 per 15 minutes. The CPU
> has been spiking up to +90%, when it usually runs about 40-50%. I am
> getting in the log (lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'' MASSIVE amount of times. How can I
> correct this?
> THANKS!
>
>
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 above message repeats 85 times
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'vscan.mocaasap.com' (in 'mocaasap.com'?): 216.49.80.74#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'www.todoporaventura.com' (in 'todoporaventura.com'?):
> 66.199.248.202#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.4#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 above message repeats 280 times
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'www.todoporaventura.com' (in 'todoporaventura.com'?):
> 66.199.248.203#53
> Nov 23 10:53:38 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.4#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> '104.210.72.200.in-addr.arpa' (in '210.72.200.in-addr.arpa'?):
> 200.72.1.254#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'tvmedia.co.jp' (in 'tvmedia.co.jp'?): 211.134.181.104#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving 'pow.com' (in
> 'pow.com'?): 212.187.158.3#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'tvmedia.co.jp' (in 'tvmedia.co.jp'?): 211.134.181.105#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> '104.210.72.200.in-addr.arpa' (in '210.72.200.in-addr.arpa'?):
> 200.72.1.253#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving 'pow.com' (in
> 'pow.com'?): 212.100.224.247#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.4#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 above message repeats 3 times
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.4#53
> Nov 23 10:53:39 ns1 named[18839]: lame server resolving
> 'chela.tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us' (in 'tower-hill.pvt.k12.de.us'?):
> 4.2.49.2#53
>
>



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