Re: More Re: DNS + Web Interface

On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:26:22 -0600, /dev/rob0 <rob0@gmx.co.uk> wrote:

>[top-posting fixed]
>On Tuesday 02 March 2004 12:09, patrick.hulman@cox.net wrote:
>> > From: /dev/rob0 <rob0@gmx.co.uk>
>> > Perhaps I missed something ... how is this different from the
>> > existing Webmin module? I used it to help myself get started a few
>> > months back, and it seemed to be good enough.
>
>> webmin looks pretty good if you have a couple of zone, but try it
>> with something like 1500+ zones and it's unusable.
>
>I would be curious to know how much a GUI would improve the efficiency
>of maintaining so many zones ... if at all. My suspicion is that it
>would tend to get in the way.
>
>Right now I have just a handful of zones in BIND. I also do occasional
>dabbling in the Zoneedit Web interface on behalf of customers. I find
>that it's more efficient to edit my zone files and "rndc reload" than
>it is to point-and-click through Zoneedit's GUI in the browser. YMMV.
If I may, from handling about 6-7000 zones at present(on 30-some
servers, with different policies, requirements, etc...), the "fun" of
something like webmin isn't that YOU can handle them, having a web
interface's main fun is that you can delegate it, and yet still
provide sensible defaults(and stern warnings not to change anything
from the defaults unless they know what they are doing...)



YMMV

robibaro@robibaro.com (Eric Robibaro) wrote in message news:<c236ta$30c8$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw>...
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:26:22 -0600, /dev/rob0 <rob0@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >[top-posting fixed]
> >On Tuesday 02 March 2004 12:09, patrick.hulman@cox.net wrote:
> >> > From: /dev/rob0 <rob0@gmx.co.uk>
> >> > Perhaps I missed something ... how is this different from the
> >> > existing Webmin module? I used it to help myself get started a few
> >> > months back, and it seemed to be good enough.
>
> >> webmin looks pretty good if you have a couple of zone, but try it
> >> with something like 1500+ zones and it's unusable.
> >
> >I would be curious to know how much a GUI would improve the efficiency
> >of maintaining so many zones ... if at all. My suspicion is that it
> >would tend to get in the way.
> >
> >Right now I have just a handful of zones in BIND. I also do occasional
> >dabbling in the Zoneedit Web interface on behalf of customers. I find
> >that it's more efficient to edit my zone files and "rndc reload" than
> >it is to point-and-click through Zoneedit's GUI in the browser. YMMV.
> If I may, from handling about 6-7000 zones at present(on 30-some
> servers, with different policies, requirements, etc...), the "fun" of
> something like webmin isn't that YOU can handle them, having a web
> interface's main fun is that you can delegate it, and yet still
> provide sensible defaults(and stern warnings not to change anything
> from the defaults unless they know what they are doing...)
>
>
>
> YMMV

We added "search/replace" to the UI (For those with more than 5 zones,
it shows up as a link next to the old bulk-editor).

So you can, say, change all 1.2.3's to 1.2.4's - etc.

Would a big text box that shows you a raw zone file be a useful
alternative interface, like granite canyon has?