It's my first time with Apache - please be gentle

I'm new to this webserver stuff, but find it fascinating to be running my
own server and finally having as much storage space as I'd like. I've just
discovered a few newsgroups and forums and have spent a few hours reading
them, and am impressed to see all the information sharing going on. That
makes the jump to Apache a little less scary for me because I really don't
have a lot of experience.

Right now I'm using a funky little TZO webserver on Win98 which works fine,
but I'd like to do a few more things than the TZO server will support. I'm
thinking about taking the leap to Apache, but I'm not sure which version I
should use; the 1.xx or the 2.xx version.

Would it be a good idea to upgrade to W2K Pro first?

I'm just using the server for personal uses. What is the minimum CPU and
RAM I should be using?

I've been reading the FAQ until my eyes bleed, but it all seems like Greek
to me right now. Any other advice you guys could give to a newbie just
starting out would be greatly appreciated.

JaiGuru <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> thinking about taking the leap to Apache, but I'm not sure which version I
> should use; the 1.xx or the 2.xx version.

It's a matter of preferences and what kind of external things you need
to run. There are things that doesn't like 2.x yet.

> Would it be a good idea to upgrade to W2K Pro first?

No. Just get a distro of Linux. Any distro will do.

> What is the minimum CPU and RAM I should be using?

I have a _production_ machine that runs 3 quite busy sites and a database
server on a Pentium 3 800 Mhz with 512 Mb ram. On Linux of course.

> I've been reading the FAQ until my eyes bleed

That's the first stage, the second stage is when your head start spinning
around and green stuff come out from your nose. Don't do that in the living
room.

Davide

JaiGuru wrote:

> Would it be a good idea to upgrade to W2K Pro first?

It might be a better idea to upgrade to some distro of Linux.

> I'm just using the server for personal uses. What is the minimum CPU and
> RAM I should be using?

I've got Apache (not under heavy load) running quite happily on a P100 with
16MB RAM.

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:48:49 GMT,
JaiGuru <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I'm new to this webserver stuff, but find it fascinating to be running my
> own server and finally having as much storage space as I'd like. I've just
> discovered a few newsgroups and forums and have spent a few hours reading
> them, and am impressed to see all the information sharing going on. That
> makes the jump to Apache a little less scary for me because I really don't
> have a lot of experience.
>
> Right now I'm using a funky little TZO webserver on Win98 which works fine,
> but I'd like to do a few more things than the TZO server will support. I'm
> thinking about taking the leap to Apache, but I'm not sure which version I
> should use; the 1.xx or the 2.xx version.

Some things don't yet work with Apache 2, but for the stuff you are
likely to do at first, it works well. If you plan on sticking to W2K,
then I'd say go with apache2, it's a lot faster on W2K than 1.X is.

>
> Would it be a good idea to upgrade to W2K Pro first?
>

Frankly, I'd use Linux. W2K makes a nice workstation, but... Linux beats
the pants off it for servers.

> I'm just using the server for personal uses. What is the minimum CPU and
> RAM I should be using?
>

Any machine you were considering to put W2KPro on, is powerful enough to
run Apache and handle a *lot* of traffic.

I just upgraded one of our servers from a 1GHz Celeron desktop box, that
was handling 3+ million requests a day. (Though that machine had no more
oomph left :)

> I've been reading the FAQ until my eyes bleed, but it all seems like Greek
> to me right now. Any other advice you guys could give to a newbie just
> starting out would be greatly appreciated.
>
>

Yeah, grab a copy of knoppix, burn it to CD, boot, run apache. Knoppix
can run from CD only, or you can make a small /home directory on your
MSWindows partition, and save permanent config and file stuff there.
Apache comes ready to run, and you can try it out yourself, for nothing
more than the cost of the blank CD and some time. Mind you, if you are
on dialup, you might be better off ordering a CD from cheapbytes or
somewhere, the Knoppix CD image is full off stuff.

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"Jim Richardson" <warlock@eskimo.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:48:49 GMT,
> JaiGuru <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Would it be a good idea to upgrade to W2K Pro first?
> >
>
> Frankly, I'd use Linux. W2K makes a nice workstation, but... Linux beats
> the pants off it for servers.

Thanks for the Linux advice. I have to stay on Windows for now. I would
like to try Linux sometime, but I don't have a box I can dedicate to it.

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 20:09:36 GMT,
JaiGuru <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> "Jim Richardson" <warlock@eskimo.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 02:48:49 GMT,
>> JaiGuru <nomail@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Would it be a good idea to upgrade to W2K Pro first?
>> >
>>
>> Frankly, I'd use Linux. W2K makes a nice workstation, but... Linux beats
>> the pants off it for servers.
>
> Thanks for the Linux advice. I have to stay on Windows for now. I would
> like to try Linux sometime, but I don't have a box I can dedicate to it.
>
>

Not to flog this into the ground, but you don't have to dedicate the
machine to Linux, you can either dual boot, or you can use one of the
"run from CD" distros like Knoppix. Knoppix comes with Apache, as do
several of the others. You can save persistant data on the MSWindows
partition, or start fresh every time you boot the CD. You call.

That aside, Apache is fun to play with on any platform :)


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On Mon, 14 Jul 2003 05:11:53 +0100,
Michael Forster <admin@muckworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> Not to flog this into the ground, but you don't have to dedicate the
>> machine to Linux, you can either dual boot, or you can use one of the
>> "run from CD" distros like Knoppix. Knoppix comes with Apache, as do
>> several of the others. You can save persistant data on the MSWindows
>> partition, or start fresh every time you boot the CD. You call.
>>
>> That aside, Apache is fun to play with on any platform :)
>>
> Or I believe that Cygwin also has apache working on it - and Cygwin is a
> Windoze version of Linux.
>

Um, no, not really.

Mind you, I haven't thought of running apache compiled for cygwin. That
would be interesting to see how well it does.

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