2.0.46

Until now, I have been installing the no_ssl version of Apache for Windows, and
as there is not a no_ssl version available for 2.0.46 I would like to know if I
should update using the 2.0.46-win32-src.zip version or
2.0.46-win32-x86-no_src.msi to upgrade my present 2.0.45?
I don't have php or mysql installed, just plain ole Apache.

TIA
Brian

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Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:

> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:57:51 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
> alt.apache.configuration:
>
>> Until now, I have been installing the no_ssl version of Apache for Windows,
>> and as there is not a no_ssl version available for 2.0.46 I would like to
>> know if I should update using the 2.0.46-win32-src.zip version or
>> 2.0.46-win32-x86-no_src.msi to upgrade my present 2.0.45?
>> I don't have php or mysql installed, just plain ole Apache.
>>
>> TIA
>> Brian
>>
>
> I'm assuming that you do not want to compile the upgrade from the
> source (a bit more complicated and requires a compiler, etc.), but
> just a regular installation as a normal software.
>
> IIRC, you've upgraded from before, so that you know you have to remove
> the previous installation ("Add/Remove Programs"...). Then you just
> run the .msi ("Microsoft installer"), which is your usual
> InstallShield-type click "Next" till you "Finish", answering a few
> prompts here and there. You might want to back up your existing
> httpd.conf just to be on the safe side, although it shouldn't replace
> the existing one. When you do the Add/Remove, it doesn't remove the
> current Apache2 folder and the site(s) in htdocs, etc., simply the
> present registry settings, Start-up stuff, and so on.
>
> Pretty straight forward. I post an upgrade howto shortly that I wrote
> about this issue.
>
> HTH
> TOG

Thanks, yes I would prefer not to build it manually.
In effect then, the no_src is basically the same thing as the no_ssl?
regards
Brian

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:00:19 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
alt.apache.configuration:

>X-No-Archive: Yes
> Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:57:51 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
>> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
>> alt.apache.configuration:
>>
>>> Until now, I have been installing the no_ssl version of Apache for Windows,
>>> and as there is not a no_ssl version available for 2.0.46 I would like to
>>> know if I should update using the 2.0.46-win32-src.zip version or
>>> 2.0.46-win32-x86-no_src.msi to upgrade my present 2.0.45?
>>> I don't have php or mysql installed, just plain ole Apache.
>>>
>>> TIA
>>> Brian
>>>
>>
>> I'm assuming that you do not want to compile the upgrade from the
>> source (a bit more complicated and requires a compiler, etc.), but
>> just a regular installation as a normal software.
>>
>> IIRC, you've upgraded from before, so that you know you have to remove
>> the previous installation ("Add/Remove Programs"...). Then you just
>> run the .msi ("Microsoft installer"), which is your usual
>> InstallShield-type click "Next" till you "Finish", answering a few
>> prompts here and there. You might want to back up your existing
>> httpd.conf just to be on the safe side, although it shouldn't replace
>> the existing one. When you do the Add/Remove, it doesn't remove the
>> current Apache2 folder and the site(s) in htdocs, etc., simply the
>> present registry settings, Start-up stuff, and so on.
>>
>> Pretty straight forward. I post an upgrade howto shortly that I wrote
>> about this issue.
>>
>> HTH
>> TOG
>
>Thanks, yes I would prefer not to build it manually.
>In effect then, the no_src is basically the same thing as the no_ssl?
>regards
>Brian
>

That is correct. Compiling would be needed to include support for SSL
(some pre-compiled versions with SSL are made available by some
users), as well as for other third-party modules that can be
incorporated into Apache.

Cheers,
TOG

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Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:

> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:00:19 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
> alt.apache.configuration:
>
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>> Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:57:51 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
>>> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
>>> alt.apache.configuration:
>>>
>>>> Until now, I have been installing the no_ssl version of Apache for Windows,
>>>> and as there is not a no_ssl version available for 2.0.46 I would like to
>>>> know if I should update using the 2.0.46-win32-src.zip version or
>>>> 2.0.46-win32-x86-no_src.msi to upgrade my present 2.0.45?
>>>> I don't have php or mysql installed, just plain ole Apache.
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm assuming that you do not want to compile the upgrade from the
>>> source (a bit more complicated and requires a compiler, etc.), but
>>> just a regular installation as a normal software.
>>>
>>> IIRC, you've upgraded from before, so that you know you have to remove
>>> the previous installation ("Add/Remove Programs"...). Then you just
>>> run the .msi ("Microsoft installer"), which is your usual
>>> InstallShield-type click "Next" till you "Finish", answering a few
>>> prompts here and there. You might want to back up your existing
>>> httpd.conf just to be on the safe side, although it shouldn't replace
>>> the existing one. When you do the Add/Remove, it doesn't remove the
>>> current Apache2 folder and the site(s) in htdocs, etc., simply the
>>> present registry settings, Start-up stuff, and so on.
>>>
>>> Pretty straight forward. I post an upgrade howto shortly that I wrote
>>> about this issue.
>>>
>>> HTH
>>> TOG
>>
>> Thanks, yes I would prefer not to build it manually.
>> In effect then, the no_src is basically the same thing as the no_ssl?
>> regards
>> Brian
>>
>
> That is correct. Compiling would be needed to include support for SSL
> (some pre-compiled versions with SSL are made available by some
> users), as well as for other third-party modules that can be
> incorporated into Apache.
>
> Cheers,
> TOG

Brilliant, thanks a lot.
Any idea why Apache didn't release a version of 2.0.46_no_ssl ?

On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:51:01 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
alt.apache.configuration:

>X-No-Archive: Yes
> Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:
>
>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:00:19 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
>> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
>> alt.apache.configuration:
>>
>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>>> Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:57:51 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
>>>> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
>>>> alt.apache.configuration:
>>>>
>>>>> Until now, I have been installing the no_ssl version of Apache for Windows,
>>>>> and as there is not a no_ssl version available for 2.0.46 I would like to
>>>>> know if I should update using the 2.0.46-win32-src.zip version or
>>>>> 2.0.46-win32-x86-no_src.msi to upgrade my present 2.0.45?
>>>>> I don't have php or mysql installed, just plain ole Apache.
>>>>>
>>>>> TIA
>>>>> Brian
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm assuming that you do not want to compile the upgrade from the
>>>> source (a bit more complicated and requires a compiler, etc.), but
>>>> just a regular installation as a normal software.
>>>>
>>>> IIRC, you've upgraded from before, so that you know you have to remove
>>>> the previous installation ("Add/Remove Programs"...). Then you just
>>>> run the .msi ("Microsoft installer"), which is your usual
>>>> InstallShield-type click "Next" till you "Finish", answering a few
>>>> prompts here and there. You might want to back up your existing
>>>> httpd.conf just to be on the safe side, although it shouldn't replace
>>>> the existing one. When you do the Add/Remove, it doesn't remove the
>>>> current Apache2 folder and the site(s) in htdocs, etc., simply the
>>>> present registry settings, Start-up stuff, and so on.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty straight forward. I post an upgrade howto shortly that I wrote
>>>> about this issue.
>>>>
>>>> HTH
>>>> TOG
>>>
>>> Thanks, yes I would prefer not to build it manually.
>>> In effect then, the no_src is basically the same thing as the no_ssl?
>>> regards
>>> Brian
>>>
>>
>> That is correct. Compiling would be needed to include support for SSL
>> (some pre-compiled versions with SSL are made available by some
>> users), as well as for other third-party modules that can be
>> incorporated into Apache.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> TOG
>
>Brilliant, thanks a lot.
>Any idea why Apache didn't release a version of 2.0.46_no_ssl ?
>

Just a heads up, Brian, as I think you use WIN98. I was reviewing my
howto which I did for W2K (company documentation; production server)
and was repeating it on my WIN98 development machine just to clean it
up and take out the company-specific stuff, and encountered a couple
of obscure items.

Went to bugtraq to see if there were reports and found the following:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21109

No other info (it was only reported yesterday).

Essentially, during the upgrade process, you get the Apache Services
Monitor installed in the Systems Tray (as per previous WIN98
installs), but it does not function to stop the server upon request.
However, at this point, you also don't get the DOS console windows
running that you can minimize to the Task Bar (that's a bonus).

I'm going to play around with this to see what's up, but have to do
some prelim stuff first.

Regards,
TOG

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Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:

> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:51:01 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
> alt.apache.configuration:
>
>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>> Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:
>>
>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 18:00:19 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
>>> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
>>> alt.apache.configuration:
>>>
>>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
>>>> Errrrr...erm... The Other Guy said:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 02:57:51 +0100, The Other Guy responded to a post
>>>>> from "Brian H¹©" <no.spam@this.addy.ta> who wrote in
>>>>> alt.apache.configuration:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Until now, I have been installing the no_ssl version of Apache for
>>>>>> Windows, and as there is not a no_ssl version available for 2.0.46 I
>>>>>> would like to know if I should update using the 2.0.46-win32-src.zip
>>>>>> version or
>>>>>> 2.0.46-win32-x86-no_src.msi to upgrade my present 2.0.45?
>>>>>> I don't have php or mysql installed, just plain ole Apache.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TIA
>>>>>> Brian
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm assuming that you do not want to compile the upgrade from the
>>>>> source (a bit more complicated and requires a compiler, etc.), but
>>>>> just a regular installation as a normal software.
>>>>>
>>>>> IIRC, you've upgraded from before, so that you know you have to remove
>>>>> the previous installation ("Add/Remove Programs"...). Then you just
>>>>> run the .msi ("Microsoft installer"), which is your usual
>>>>> InstallShield-type click "Next" till you "Finish", answering a few
>>>>> prompts here and there. You might want to back up your existing
>>>>> httpd.conf just to be on the safe side, although it shouldn't replace
>>>>> the existing one. When you do the Add/Remove, it doesn't remove the
>>>>> current Apache2 folder and the site(s) in htdocs, etc., simply the
>>>>> present registry settings, Start-up stuff, and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pretty straight forward. I post an upgrade howto shortly that I wrote
>>>>> about this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> TOG
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, yes I would prefer not to build it manually.
>>>> In effect then, the no_src is basically the same thing as the no_ssl?
>>>> regards
>>>> Brian
>>>>
>>>
>>> That is correct. Compiling would be needed to include support for SSL
>>> (some pre-compiled versions with SSL are made available by some
>>> users), as well as for other third-party modules that can be
>>> incorporated into Apache.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> TOG
>>
>> Brilliant, thanks a lot.
>> Any idea why Apache didn't release a version of 2.0.46_no_ssl ?
>>
>
> Just a heads up, Brian, as I think you use WIN98. I was reviewing my
> howto which I did for W2K (company documentation; production server)
> and was repeating it on my WIN98 development machine just to clean it
> up and take out the company-specific stuff, and encountered a couple
> of obscure items.
>
> Went to bugtraq to see if there were reports and found the following:
> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=21109
>
> No other info (it was only reported yesterday).
>
> Essentially, during the upgrade process, you get the Apache Services
> Monitor installed in the Systems Tray (as per previous WIN98
> installs), but it does not function to stop the server upon request.
> However, at this point, you also don't get the DOS console windows
> running that you can minimize to the Task Bar (that's a bonus).
>
> I'm going to play around with this to see what's up, but have to do
> some prelim stuff first.
>
> Regards,
> TOG

Actually, I upgraded to W2K a couple of months ago, I got fed up with 98
crashing all the time ;-)