php_self-- works on the server, but not locally php/apache setup issue?

Have the following configuration.
php 5.2.0
apache 2.2.4


The following submission, before I did a major upgrade back in
February, worked fine with localhost,
and will still work fine in a server enviornment,anything from jatol,
to godaddy.

.....
<form name='fmSubmittal' method='post' action="<?php
$_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>">
<table border='3'>

<tr><td colspan='4' align='center'><button type='submit'
value='SUBMIT' name='sub1'>SUBMIT</button><button type='reset'
value='reset' name='res'>Reset</button></tr>

if (isset($sub1)) { //$CommA is the submit button
session_register('chosen');
include 'autunite/dConn.php';
include 'autunite/Ser.php';
$szInterests=sizeOf($Int);
echo "# of interests is, $szInterests or sizeOf($Int)";

.....

BUT, when developing on my local machine (localhost), I get the
following message when submitting a form, using the variable action
above. $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']


Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /dt/< on this server.

Starting with "?php... " makes the Forbidden error go away, but
doesn't process the form. (yes, I included some of the variables in
session_register). The series of code, however, processes. Not even
that echo, echoes like it is supposed to.


putting <?= in front results in the same FORBIDDEN error, with the
http line reading,
http://localhost/dt/%3C?=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];%20?%3E

Is there a change in either the httpd file or php.ini, I'm missing?
It worked fine before the overhaul, and might of, even after it.



Everything works, as expected, on the server side. But don't want to
upload small changes every time to see if it works, lol.

any ideas????

On 23 Apr, 19:59, G...@steric.net wrote:
> Have the following configuration.
> php 5.2.0
> apache 2.2.4
>
> The following submission, before I did a major upgrade back in
> February, worked fine with localhost,
> and will still work fine in a server enviornment,anything from jatol,
> to godaddy.
>
> ....
> <form name='fmSubmittal' method='post' action="<?php
> $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>">
> <table border='3'>
>
> <tr><td colspan='4' align='center'><button type='submit'
> value='SUBMIT' name='sub1'>SUBMIT</button><button type='reset'
> value='reset' name='res'>Reset</button></tr>
>
> if (isset($sub1)) { //$CommA is the submit button
> session_register('chosen');
> include 'autunite/dConn.php';
> include 'autunite/Ser.php';
> $szInterests=sizeOf($Int);
> echo "# of interests is, $szInterests or sizeOf($Int)";
>
> ....
>
> BUT, when developing on my local machine (localhost), I get the
> following message when submitting a form, using the variable action
> above. $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']
>
> Forbidden
> You don't have permission to access /dt/< on this server.
>
> Starting with "?php... " makes the Forbidden error go away, but
> doesn't process the form. (yes, I included some of the variables in
> session_register). The series of code, however, processes. Not even
> that echo, echoes like it is supposed to.
>
> putting <?= in front results in the same FORBIDDEN error, with the
> http line reading,http://localhost/dt/%3C?=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];%20?%3E
>
> Is there a change in either the httpd file or php.ini, I'm missing?
> It worked fine before the overhaul, and might of, even after it.
>
> Everything works, as expected, on the server side. But don't want to
> upload small changes every time to see if it works, lol.
>
> any ideas????

do you mean
action="<?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
whereas you have
action="<?php $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
which doesnt print anything, and so there tried to post back to
whatever the URL is which in your case is /dk/ - your localhost is set
up not to use index.php - add
directoryindex index.php
to your conf file, so it tries presumably to post to the default page
which doesnt exist, index.htm/l?

anyway you cant use short tags in this version of php (well shouldnt )
and its probably disabled by default, get away from <?= if you can
instead always use <?php echo instead to future proof your code.

On Apr 23, 9:28 pm, shimmyshack <matt.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23 Apr, 19:59, G...@steric.net wrote:
>
>
>
> > Have the following configuration.
> > php 5.2.0
> >apache2.2.4
>
> > The following submission, before I did a major upgrade back in
> > February, worked fine with localhost,
> > and will still work fine in a server enviornment,anything from jatol,
> > to godaddy.
>
> > ....
> > <form name='fmSubmittal' method='post' action="<?php
> > $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>">
> > <table border='3'>
>
> > <tr><td colspan='4' align='center'><button type='submit'
> > value='SUBMIT' name='sub1'>SUBMIT</button><button type='reset'
> > value='reset' name='res'>Reset</button></tr>
>
> > if (isset($sub1)) { //$CommA is the submit button
> > session_register('chosen');
> > include 'autunite/dConn.php';
> > include 'autunite/Ser.php';
> > $szInterests=sizeOf($Int);
> > echo "# of interests is, $szInterests or sizeOf($Int)";
>
> > ....
>
> > BUT, when developing on my local machine (localhost), I get the
> > following message when submitting a form, using the variable action
> > above. $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']
>
> > Forbidden
> > You don't have permission to access /dt/< on this server.
>
> > Starting with "?php... " makes the Forbidden error go away, but
> > doesn't process the form. (yes, I included some of the variables in
> > session_register). The series of code, however, processes. Not even
> > that echo, echoes like it is supposed to.
>
> > putting <?= in front results in the same FORBIDDEN error, with the
> > http line reading,http://localhost/dt/%3C?=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];%20?%3E
>
> > Is there a change in either the httpd file or php.ini, I'm missing?
> > It worked fine before the overhaul, and might of, even after it.
>
> > Everything works, as expected, on the server side. But don't want to
> > upload small changes every time to see if it works, lol.
>
> > any ideas????
>
> do you mean
> action="<?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
> whereas you have
> action="<?php $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
> which doesnt print anything, and so there tried to post back to
> whatever the URL is which in your case is /dk/ - your localhost is set
> up not to use index.php - add
> directoryindex index.php
> to your conf file, so it tries presumably to post to the default page
> which doesnt exist, index.htm/l?

Actually, in the httpd.conf file, in
<IfModule dir_module>, the directoryIndex exists, but had it in the
order of
index.html index.php index.htm </IfModule>

I have changed the order of the index files to see if that makes a
difference, though, if it does,
I'd have a problem, if I was using index.htm/l, which I don't :o)
I'm also not using index.php to do this process. It is called,
cu.php. Just calls the code upon a submit button.

Tested--- no difference. Also, localhost takes forever to process
the page in Firefox while on the server, it doesn't take any time at
all.
It processes a portion, then sits, then finishes, without displaying
the text i want it to. In fact, the isset($sub1) doesn't seem to
register at the press of a button which I assigned a name of, 'sub1'.

Works fine on the server.
(I have an if statement If (isset($sub1)) { linked to the submit
button push, and it fires on the server side, but not on the localhost
side--
Could it be a configuration setting or something different about my
new combination of Apache Mysql Php that I don't know about ?????


>
> anyway you cant use short tags in this version of php (well shouldnt )
> and its probably disabled by default, get away from <?= if you can
> instead always use <?php echo instead to future proof your code.

I do usually front with <?php...?> Has <?= gone away with a
certain version?? If so, I might have to change some old code.

thanks

On Apr 24, 8:31 pm, G...@steric.net wrote:
> On Apr 23, 9:28 pm, shimmyshack <matt.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 Apr, 19:59, G...@steric.net wrote:
>
> > > Have the following configuration.
> > > php 5.2.0
> > >apache2.2.4
>
> > > The following submission, before I did a major upgrade back in
> > > February, worked fine with localhost,
> > > and will still work fine in a server enviornment,anything from jatol,
> > > to godaddy.
>
> > > ....
> > > <form name='fmSubmittal' method='post' action="<?php
> > > $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>">
> > > <table border='3'>
>
> > > <tr><td colspan='4' align='center'><button type='submit'
> > > value='SUBMIT' name='sub1'>SUBMIT</button><button type='reset'
> > > value='reset' name='res'>Reset</button></tr>
>
> > > if (isset($sub1)) { //$CommA is the submit button
> > > session_register('chosen');
> > > include 'autunite/dConn.php';
> > > include 'autunite/Ser.php';
> > > $szInterests=sizeOf($Int);
> > > echo "# of interests is, $szInterests or sizeOf($Int)";
>
> > > ....
>
> > > BUT, when developing on my local machine (localhost), I get the
> > > following message when submitting a form, using the variable action
> > > above. $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']
>
> > > Forbidden
> > > You don't have permission to access /dt/< on this server.
>
> > > Starting with "?php... " makes the Forbidden error go away, but
> > > doesn't process the form. (yes, I included some of the variables in
> > > session_register). The series of code, however, processes. Not even
> > > that echo, echoes like it is supposed to.
>
> > > putting <?= in front results in the same FORBIDDEN error, with the
> > > http line reading,http://localhost/dt/%3C?=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];%20?%3E
>
> > > Is there a change in either the httpd file or php.ini, I'm missing?
> > > It worked fine before the overhaul, and might of, even after it.
>
> > > Everything works, as expected, on the server side. But don't want to
> > > upload small changes every time to see if it works, lol.
>
> > > any ideas????
>
> > do you mean
> > action="<?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
> > whereas you have
> > action="<?php $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
> > which doesnt print anything, and so there tried to post back to
> > whatever the URL is which in your case is /dk/ - your localhost is set
> > up not to use index.php - add
> > directoryindex index.php
> > to your conf file, so it tries presumably to post to the default page
> > which doesnt exist, index.htm/l?
>
> Actually, in the httpd.conf file, in
> <IfModule dir_module>, the directoryIndex exists, but had it in the
> order of
> index.html index.php index.htm </IfModule>
>
> I have changed the order of the index files to see if that makes a
> difference, though, if it does,
> I'd have a problem, if I was using index.htm/l, which I don't :o)
> I'm also not using index.php to do this process. It is called,
> cu.php. Just calls the code upon a submit button.
>
> Tested--- no difference. Also, localhost takes forever to process
> the page in Firefox while on the server, it doesn't take any time at
> all.
> It processes a portion, then sits, then finishes, without displaying
> the text i want it to. In fact, the isset($sub1) doesn't seem to
> register at the press of a button which I assigned a name of, 'sub1'.
>
> Works fine on the server.
> (I have an if statement If (isset($sub1)) { linked to the submit
> button push, and it fires on the server side, but not on the localhost
> side--
> Could it be a configuration setting or something different about my
> new combination of Apache Mysql Php that I don't know about ?????
>
>
>
> > anyway you cant use short tags in this version of php (well shouldnt )
> > and its probably disabled by default, get away from <?= if you can
> > instead always use <?php echo instead to future proof your code.
>
> I do usually front with <?php...?> Has <?= gone away with a
> certain version?? If so, I might have to change some old code.
>
> thanks


there are a few things that are different,
you can use
<?=$var;?>
but dont, instead use
<?php echo $var ?>
this avoids conflicts with xml headers if you start to use them, so in
fact once all your code hsa been adjusted you could finally turn off
short tags in the php.ini for good measure. It seems as if short tags
has gone with your version, which is why you get
http://localhost/dt/%3C?=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];%20?%3E
when you try to use <?$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] so do a search and replace
and change them all over from <?= to <?php echo and you're done. (It
still surprises me how much major opensource code is still written
with this shortcut)

globals has gone for security reasons, so you cannot use

<form>
<input name="blah_var" type="text/>
<input name="blah_submit" type=-"submit"/>
</form>
<?php
if( isset($blah_var, $blah_submit) )
{
echo $blah_var;
echo $blah_submit;
}
?>

you must instead use

<?php
if ( isset($_POST['blah_var'], $_POST['blah_submit']) )
{
echo $_POST['blah_var'];
echo $_POST['blah_submit'];
}
?>

you could also use $_REQUEST['blah_var'], but that is to be avoided
and you know you used POST anyway.


from what you said about directoryIndex, things are fine, the order
doesnt matter, only the existence of a page that you could post to,
without specifying in the action. According to xhtml standards the
action cannot be left empty although in practise its not a problem as
browsers just submit to the URL they are already on. Using <?php
$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'] ?> which doesnt echo anything, would have
resulted in the browser trying to POST to the URL it was already on,
which appeared to be the default for that /dk/ directory.

I was interested in the forbidden error, have you tried to use a LIMIT
statement to ban the verb types that can be used on your version of
apache? Some people often use LIMIT where they actually mean
LimitExcept although in your case that might not apply as you can
clearly GET the page.

Once you modernise the php code I wonder if your page will work, if
you are using XP there are a couple of specific issues windows
sometimes has that might cause a hang, but Im not convinced your
script is hanging, more just not processing.

On Apr 24, 8:31 pm, G...@steric.net wrote:
> On Apr 23, 9:28 pm, shimmyshack <matt.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On 23 Apr, 19:59, G...@steric.net wrote:
>
> > > Have the following configuration.
> > > php 5.2.0
> > >apache2.2.4
>
> > > The following submission, before I did a major upgrade back in
> > > February, worked fine with localhost,
> > > and will still work fine in a server enviornment,anything from jatol,
> > > to godaddy.
>
> > > ....
> > > <form name='fmSubmittal' method='post' action="<?php
> > > $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>">
> > > <table border='3'>
>
> > > <tr><td colspan='4' align='center'><button type='submit'
> > > value='SUBMIT' name='sub1'>SUBMIT</button><button type='reset'
> > > value='reset' name='res'>Reset</button></tr>
>
> > > if (isset($sub1)) { //$CommA is the submit button
> > > session_register('chosen');
> > > include 'autunite/dConn.php';
> > > include 'autunite/Ser.php';
> > > $szInterests=sizeOf($Int);
> > > echo "# of interests is, $szInterests or sizeOf($Int)";
>
> > > ....
>
> > > BUT, when developing on my local machine (localhost), I get the
> > > following message when submitting a form, using the variable action
> > > above. $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']
>
> > > Forbidden
> > > You don't have permission to access /dt/< on this server.
>
> > > Starting with "?php... " makes the Forbidden error go away, but
> > > doesn't process the form. (yes, I included some of the variables in
> > > session_register). The series of code, however, processes. Not even
> > > that echo, echoes like it is supposed to.
>
> > > putting <?= in front results in the same FORBIDDEN error, with the
> > > http line reading,http://localhost/dt/%3C?=$_SERVER['PHP_SELF'];%20?%3E
>
> > > Is there a change in either the httpd file or php.ini, I'm missing?
> > > It worked fine before the overhaul, and might of, even after it.
>
> > > Everything works, as expected, on the server side. But don't want to
> > > upload small changes every time to see if it works, lol.
>
> > > any ideas????
>
> > do you mean
> > action="<?php echo $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
> > whereas you have
> > action="<?php $_SERVER['PHP_SELF']; ?>"
> > which doesnt print anything, and so there tried to post back to
> > whatever the URL is which in your case is /dk/ - your localhost is set
> > up not to use index.php - add
> > directoryindex index.php
> > to your conf file, so it tries presumably to post to the default page
> > which doesnt exist, index.htm/l?
>
> Actually, in the httpd.conf file, in
> <IfModule dir_module>, the directoryIndex exists, but had it in the
> order of
> index.html index.php index.htm </IfModule>
>
> I have changed the order of the index files to see if that makes a
> difference, though, if it does,
> I'd have a problem, if I was using index.htm/l, which I don't :o)
> I'm also not using index.php to do this process. It is called,
> cu.php. Just calls the code upon a submit button.
>
> Tested--- no difference. Also, localhost takes forever to process
> the page in Firefox while on the server, it doesn't take any time at
> all.
> It processes a portion, then sits, then finishes, without displaying
> the text i want it to. In fact, the isset($sub1) doesn't seem to
> register at the press of a button which I assigned a name of, 'sub1'.
>
> Works fine on the server.
> (I have an if statement If (isset($sub1)) { linked to the submit
> button push, and it fires on the server side, but not on the localhost
> side--
> Could it be a configuration setting or something different about my
> new combination of Apache Mysql Php that I don't know about ?????
>
>
>
> > anyway you cant use short tags in this version of php (well shouldnt )
> > and its probably disabled by default, get away from <?= if you can
> > instead always use <?php echo instead to future proof your code.
>
> I do usually front with <?php...?> Has <?= gone away with a
> certain version?? If so, I might have to change some old code.
>
> thanks

apologies if this posts twice, my last post doesnt seem to have
appeared.

change all <?= to <?php echo
order of arguments for directoryindex doesnt matter, so youre fine
there.
globals is now defunct so use $_POST['var'] rather than $var when
using forms with <input name="var" type="text"/> .....
if you are on windows, check the apache website for specific
directives that might need to be enabled if your server appears to
hang sometimes: Win32DisableAcceptEx etc...
you appear to have moved from php4 to 5, i recommend checking the php
website for all changes and best practise, sessions etc... while you
are at it, review security on your scripts to avoid XSS, mail and sql
injection and other nasties.