apache startup fails without logs

hello there

i have a strange problem. anyhow it looks strange for me.

for a few days apache doesnt starts nomore. with /etc/init.d/apache start it
says "apache starting..." but then fails without any message. i looked in
/var/error/log but there are no new log-lines. also /var/log/messages isnt useful.
what i did before apache failed:
i tried to setup mod_perl, but i got strange errors like "internal server error"
or "acces forbidden".
then i made an apt-get upgrade, and afterwards, i think, apache didnt work.

apache2ctl configtest
Syntax OK

so syntax seems to be ok.

what im using:

-debian linux testing (was stable)
-apache2
-php5
-mod_cband
-ssl

do you no any solutions, or ideas to get the error?

greetings
paul

Davide Bianchi schrieb:
> On 2006-08-17, Paul Stuck <ps@none.invalid> wrote:
>> for a few days apache doesnt starts nomore. with /etc/init.d/apache start it
>> says "apache starting..." but then fails without any message. i looked in
>> /var/error/log but there are no new log-lines.
>
> And in /var/log/httpd/error_log ?
this directory doesnt exist on my system...


>
>> do you no any solutions, or ideas to get the error?
>
> How about downgrade to the previous version?
i already reinstalled it without solving the problem. how can i downgrade? can
apt do that?

greetings
paul

[ Paul Stuck ]

> Davide Bianchi schrieb:
>> On 2006-08-17, Paul Stuck <ps@none.invalid> wrote:
>>> for a few days apache doesnt starts nomore. with
>>> /etc/init.d/apache start it says "apache starting..." but then
>>> fails without any message. i looked in /var/error/log but there
>>> are no new log-lines.

>>
>> And in /var/log/httpd/error_log ?
> this directory doesnt exist on my system...

Have a look in the Apache config file (httpd.conf) for the location of
the error_log-file. I don't use debian, but it's probably somewhere
under /etc/apache2.

>>> do you no any solutions, or ideas to get the error?
>>
>> How about downgrade to the previous version?
> i already reinstalled it without solving the problem. how can i
> downgrade? can apt do that?

This is something you should ask a Debian-specific group/list/forum.


Rgds,
Kenneth Svee

Kenneth Svee wrote:
> [ Paul Stuck ]
>
>> Davide Bianchi schrieb:
>>> On 2006-08-17, Paul Stuck <ps@none.invalid> wrote:
>>>> for a few days apache doesnt starts nomore. with
>>>> /etc/init.d/apache start it says "apache starting..." but then
>>>> fails without any message. i looked in /var/error/log but there
>>>> are no new log-lines.
>
>>> And in /var/log/httpd/error_log ?
>> this directory doesnt exist on my system...
>
> Have a look in the Apache config file (httpd.conf) for the location of
> the error_log-file. I don't use debian, but it's probably somewhere
> under /etc/apache2.
>
>>>> do you no any solutions, or ideas to get the error?
>>> How about downgrade to the previous version?
>> i already reinstalled it without solving the problem. how can i
>> downgrade? can apt do that?
>
> This is something you should ask a Debian-specific group/list/forum.
>
>
> Rgds,
> Kenneth Svee


Have you checked the log file's size ,... if any of the logsfiles is
over 2GB apache wont start either.

Pete

"Kenneth Svee" <ksvee+news@usit.uio.no> schreef in bericht
news:ffh8xkzg1y0.fsf@neverborn.uio.no...
>[ Paul Stuck ]
>
>> Davide Bianchi schrieb:
>>> On 2006-08-17, Paul Stuck <ps@none.invalid> wrote:
>>>> for a few days apache doesnt starts nomore. with
>>>> /etc/init.d/apache start it says "apache starting..." but then
>>>> fails without any message. i looked in /var/error/log but there
>>>> are no new log-lines.
>
>>>
>>> And in /var/log/httpd/error_log ?
>> this directory doesnt exist on my system...

IIRC in general Debian renames all folders and files from httpd* to
apache* -or apache2.* for version 2-
[Debian] Default logs should be in /var/log/apache2/, so check
'/var/log/apache2/error_log'

> Have a look in the Apache config file (httpd.conf) for the location of
> the error_log-file. I don't use debian, but it's probably somewhere
> under /etc/apache2.
There one finds the config file 'apache2.conf' and its includes

Most likely '/etc/init.d/apache' is to start Apache 1.3 and fails while this
version is absent or disabled: try '/etc/init.d/apache2'

Check by ´ps aux | egrep "apache|httpd"´ the right version of apache is
running.


HansH