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Old 11-08-2004
Mentor
 
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Default Karen Hughes admits Kerry won in a landslide

Read this all and you'll see why and when

This is where we are at that a landslide can be overturned with a few
stroke's from a hacker's fingers.

Evidence Mounts That The Vote May Have Been Hacked
by Thom Hartmann


When I spoke with Jeff Fisher this morning (Saturday, November 06,
2004), the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives
from Florida's 16th District said he was waiting for the FBI to show
up. Fisher has evidence, he says, not only that the Florida election
was hacked, but of who hacked it and how. And not just this year, he
said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic
primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against
Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against
Bill McBride, who Jeb beat.

"It was practice for a national effort," Fisher told me.

And some believe evidence is accumulating that the national effort
happened on November 2, 2004.

The State of Florida, for example, publishes a county-by-county record
of votes cast and people registered to vote by party affiliation. Net
denizen Kathy Dopp compiled the official state information into a
table, available at http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm, and
noticed something startling.

While the heavily scrutinized touch-screen voting machines seemed to
produce results in which the registered Democrat/Republican ratios
largely matched the Kerry/Bush vote, in Florida's counties using
results from optically scanned paper ballots - fed into a central
tabulator PC and thus vulnerable to hacking – the results seem to
contain substantial anomalies.

In Baker County, for example, with 12,887 registered voters, 69.3% of
them Democrats and 24.3% of them Republicans, the vote was only 2,180
for Kerry and 7,738 for Bush, the opposite of what is seen everywhere
else in the country where registered Democrats largely voted for
Kerry.

In Dixie County, with 9,676 registered voters, 77.5% of them Democrats
and a mere 15% registered as Republicans, only 1,959 people voted for
Kerry, but 4,433 voted for Bush.

The pattern repeats over and over again - but only in the counties
where optical scanners were used. Franklin County, 77.3% registered
Democrats, went 58.5% for Bush. Holmes County, 72.7% registered
Democrats, went 77.25% for Bush.

Yet in the touch-screen counties, where investigators may have been
more vigorously looking for such anomalies, high percentages of
registered Democrats generally equaled high percentages of votes for
Kerry. (I had earlier reported that county size was a variable – this
turns out not to be the case. Just the use of touch-screens versus
optical scanners.)

More visual analysis of the results can be seen at http://us
together.org/election04/FloridaDataStats.htm, and
www.rubberbug.com/temp/Florida2004chart.htm. Note the trend line – the
only variable that determines a swing toward Bush was the use of
optical scan machines.

One possible explanation for this is the "Dixiecrat" theory, that in
Florida white voters (particularly the rural ones) have been
registered as Democrats for years, but voting Republican since Reagan.
Looking at the 2000 statistics, also available on Dopp's site, there
are similar anomalies, although the trends are not as strong as in
2004. But some suggest the 2000 election may have been questionable in
Florida, too.

One of the people involved in Dopp's analysis noted that it may be
possible to determine the validity of the "rural Democrat" theory by
comparing Florida's white rural counties to those of Pennsylvania,
another swing state but one that went for Kerry, as the exit polls
there predicted. Interestingly, the Pennsylvania analysis, available
at http://ustogether.org/election04/PA_vote_patt.htm, doesn't show the
same kind of swings as does Florida, lending credence to the
possibility of problems in Florida.

Even more significantly, Dopp had first run the analysis while
filtering out smaller (rural) counties, and still found that the only
variable that accounted for a swing toward Republican voting was the
use of optical-scan machines, whereas counties with touch-screen
machines generally didn't swing - regardless of size.

Others offer similar insights, based on other data. A professor at the
University of Massachusetts, Amherst, noted that in Florida the vote
to raise the minimum wage was approved by 72%, although Kerry got 48%.
"The correlation between voting for the minimum wage increase and
voting for Kerry isn't likely to be perfect," he noted, "but one would
normally expect that the gap - of 1.5 million votes - to be far
smaller than it was."

While all of this may or may not be evidence of vote tampering, it
again brings the nation back to the question of why several states
using electronic voting machines or scanners programmed by private,
for-profit corporations and often connected to modems produced votes
inconsistent with exit poll numbers.

Those exit poll results have been a problem for reporters ever since
Election Day.

Election night, I'd been doing live election coverage for WDEV, one of
the radio stations that carries my syndicated show, and, just after
midnight, during the 12:20 a.m. Associated Press Radio News feed, I
was startled to hear the reporter detail how Karen Hughes had earlier
sat George W. Bush down to inform him that he'd lost the election. The
exit polls were clear: Kerry was winning in a landslide. "Bush took
the news stoically," noted the AP report.

But then the computers reported something different. In several
pivotal states.

Conservatives see a conspiracy here: They think the exit polls were
rigged.

Dick Morris, the infamous political consultant to the first Clinton
campaign who became a Republican consultant and Fox News regular,
wrote an article for The Hill, the publication read by every political
junkie in Washington, DC, in which he made a couple of brilliant
points.

"Exit Polls are almost never wrong," Morris wrote. "They eliminate the
two major potential fallacies in survey research by correctly
separating actual voters from those who pretend they will cast ballots
but never do and by substituting actual observation for guesswork in
judging the relative turnout of different parts of the state."

He added: "So, according to ABC-TVs exit polls, for example, Kerry was
slated to carry Florida, Ohio, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and Iowa,
all of which Bush carried. The only swing state the network had going
to Bush was West Virginia, which the president won by 10 points."

Yet a few hours after the exit polls were showing a clear Kerry sweep,
as the computerized vote numbers began to come in from the various
states the election was called for Bush.

How could this happen?

On the CNBC TV show "Topic A With Tina Brown," several months ago,
Howard Dean had filled in for Tina Brown as guest host. His guest was
Bev Harris, the Seattle grandmother who started www.blackboxvoting.org
from her living room. Bev pointed out that regardless of how votes
were tabulated (other than hand counts, only done in odd places like
small towns in Vermont), the real "counting" is done by computers. Be
they Diebold Opti-Scan machines, which read paper ballots filled in by
pencil or ink in the voter's hand, or the scanners that read punch
cards, or the machines that simply record a touch of the screen, in
all cases the final tally is sent to a "central tabulator" machine.

That central tabulator computer is a Windows-based PC.

"In a voting system," Harris explained to Dean on national television,
"you have all the different voting machines at all the different
polling places, sometimes, as in a county like mine, there's a
thousand polling places in a single county. All those machines feed
into the one machine so it can add up all the votes. So, of course, if
you were going to do something you shouldn't to a voting machine,
would it be more convenient to do it to each of the 4000 machines, or
just come in here and deal with all of them at once?"

Dean nodded in rhetorical agreement, and Harris continued. "What
surprises people is that the central tabulator is just a PC, like what
you and I use. It's just a regular computer."

"So," Dean said, "anybody who can hack into a PC can hack into a
central tabulator?"

Harris nodded affirmation, and pointed out how Diebold uses a program
called GEMS, which fills the screen of the PC and effectively turns it
into the central tabulator system. "This is the official program that
the County Supervisor sees," she said, pointing to a PC that was
sitting between them loaded with Diebold's software.

Bev then had Dean open the GEMS program to see the results of a test
election. They went to the screen titled "Election Summary Report" and
waited a moment while the PC "adds up all the votes from all the
various precincts," and then saw that in this faux election Howard
Dean had 1000 votes, Lex Luthor had 500, and Tiger Woods had none.
Dean was winning.

"Of course, you can't tamper with this software," Harris noted.
Diebold wrote a pretty good program.

But, it's running on a Windows PC.

So Harris had Dean close the Diebold GEMS software, go back to the
normal Windows PC desktop, click on the "My Computer" icon, choose
"Local Disk C:," open the folder titled GEMS, and open the sub-folder
"LocalDB" which, Harris noted, "stands for local database, that's
where they keep the votes." Harris then had Dean double-click on a
file in that folder titled "Central Tabulator Votes," which caused the
PC to open the vote count in a database program like Excel.

In the "Sum of the Candidates" row of numbers, she found that in one
precinct Dean had received 800 votes and Lex Luthor had gotten 400.

"Let's just flip those," Harris said, as Dean cut and pasted the
numbers from one cell into the other. "And," she added magnanimously,
"let's give 100 votes to Tiger."

They closed the database, went back into the official GEMS software
"the legitimate way, you're the county supervisor and you're checking
on the progress of your election."

As the screen displayed the official voter tabulation, Harris said,
"And you can see now that Howard Dean has only 500 votes, Lex Luthor
has 900, and Tiger Woods has 100." Dean, the winner, was now the
loser.

Harris sat up a bit straighter, smiled, and said, "We just edited an
election, and it took us 90 seconds."

On live national television. (You can see the clip on
www.votergate.tv.) And they had left no tracks whatsoever, Harris
said, noting that it would be nearly impossible for the election
software – or a County election official - to know that the vote
database had been altered.

Which brings us back to Morris and those pesky exit polls that had
Karen Hughes telling George W. Bush that he'd lost the election in a
landslide.

Morris's conspiracy theory is that the exit polls "were sabotage" to
cause people in the western states to not bother voting for Bush,
since the networks would call the election based on the exit polls for
Kerry. But the networks didn't do that, and had never intended to.

According to congressional candidate Fisher, it makes far more sense
that the exit polls were right - they weren't done on Diebold PCs -
and that the vote itself was hacked.

And not only for the presidential candidate - Jeff Fisher thinks this
hit him and pretty much every other Democratic candidate for national
office in the most-hacked swing states.

So far, the only national "mainstream" media to come close to this
story was Keith Olbermann on his show Friday night, November 5th, when
he noted that it was curious that all the voting machine
irregularities so far uncovered seem to favor Bush. In the meantime,
the Washington Post and other media are now going through
single-bullet-theory-like contortions to explain how the exit polls
had failed.

But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large
part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final
paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong
across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm
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Old 11-09-2004
Dean
 
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Default OT Karen Hughes admits Kerry won in a landslide


"Mentor" <morrisey@mailinator.com> wrote in message
news:c0e3f485.0411081018.12a3ca1c@posting.google.c om...
> Read this all and you'll see why and when
>

<snip>

Karen Hughes admitted no such thing.

> But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large
> part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final
> paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong
> across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."


What Mr. Morris meant was that the polls were cooked. There is no
evidence - none - that there was any foul play vis-a-vis vote tabulation.

If your position is so strong, why must you lie and distort.
>
> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm



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Old 11-10-2004
Eric
 
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Dean wrote:

>
> "Mentor" <morrisey@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:c0e3f485.0411081018.12a3ca1c@posting.google.c om...
>> Read this all and you'll see why and when
>>

> <snip>
>
> Karen Hughes admitted no such thing.
>
>> But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large
>> part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final
>> paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong
>> across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

>
> What Mr. Morris meant was that the polls were cooked. There is no
> evidence - none - that there was any foul play vis-a-vis vote tabulation.
>
> If your position is so strong, why must you lie and distort.
>>
>> http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm


They lie and distort because its all they have left.
You are witnessing the implosion of the Democrat party.
I hope they keep it up, it drives more and more people to the right.
Sincerely a Fundamentalist Christian, Bush supporting, anti-gay marriage,
Pro Life, 2nd amendment supporting, SUV driving, oil consuming, rich,
tax dodging, patriotic, party line voting, Republican,
Eric

ps: Can i interest any of you liberals in a good deal on a bridge in NY?


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Old 11-29-2004
catchmerevisited
 
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In article <JcmdncKoI-MrjQ3cRVn-sQ@usadatanet.net>,
"Dean" <deankelly@usadatanet.com> wrote:

> "Mentor" <morrisey@mailinator.com> wrote in message
> news:c0e3f485.0411081018.12a3ca1c@posting.google.c om...
> > Read this all and you'll see why and when
> >

> <snip>
>
> Karen Hughes admitted no such thing.
>
> > But I agree with Fox's Dick Morris on this one, at least in large
> > part. Wrapping up his story for The Hill, Morris wrote in his final
> > paragraph, "This was no mere mistake. Exit polls cannot be as wrong
> > across the board as they were on election night. I suspect foul play."

>
> What Mr. Morris meant was that the polls were cooked. There is no
> evidence - none - that there was any foul play vis-a-vis vote tabulation.
>
> If your position is so strong, why must you lie and distort.
> >
> > http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/1106-30.htm



Although I prefferred to have Kerry in place as President, I find it
disturbing that ppl. would rather choose to believe that an election was
rigged than to admit that their candidate lost.
When one considers the implications of a rigged election, one grows to
understand that what this theory suggests goes beyond the election and
questions the legitimacy of ANY election and the possibility of failure
for Nations of Democracies.
Is the threat to Democracy, one that lurks from within, as Kerry
supporters seem to claim, or from without as Bush supporters believe?

My belief is that Democracy must withstand a certain lack of security,
to reflect the Liberties of the individual which this form of government
was designed to protect.
This is the logical flaw of Bush's policies during his first
Administration- let's hope he doesn't compound this further. He may give
ppl. more reason that the enemy is not AT the gates, but lurks inside
the White House.
I look at the US political situation as it sits, and see ominous
parallels beginning to occur in policies at home in Canada and abroad in
the UK and the nations of the former Commonwealth, and I and many other
Libertarians become concerned.
The nations of Democracies' reformations are dangerously close to
becoming Police Statisms such as existed under Stalin.
 
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