Re: [AMaViS-user] Sa-learn --ham vs spamassassin -report

Michael wrote:

> I am working an a program that accepts spamassassin 'TELL' (learning)
> reports
> (see spamc/spamd, and new 'spamassassin coach' for outlook and
> thunderbird)

> Sa coach sends stream to spamd with 'TELL' protocol.
> It then calls the equivalent of 'spamassassin -r' (for spam) or '-z for
> ham' or -f for forget.

> Is this sufficient for amavisd-new installations?
> Do I need to call sa-learn --ham and sa-learn --spam also?

> If I call sa-learn --ham or --spam INSTEAD OF, I lose the ability to
> report to DCC,razor,spamcop.,pyzor, etc.

> I will be releasing sa-learnd for amavisd-new users as sa coach also
> gets more stable (I can't get it to work with outlook, and even the
> thunderbird version is missing a lot of error checking)

> So, is spamassassin -r a superset of sa-learn --spam? Or do I need to
> run them both to get the local Bayesian table updated?

It would be best to ask on the SA users list.

Just a test:

sfa:~# ls -l /var/lib/amavis/.spamassassin/
total 40
-rwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-08-19 20:51 auto-whitelist
-rw-rw-rw- 1 amavis amavis 12 2006-08-27 12:18 bayes.mutex
-rw------- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-08-26 18:18 bayes_seen
-rw------- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-08-27 12:18 bayes_toks
-rwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis 1487 2006-08-19 20:51 user_prefs

sfa:~# su amavis -c 'spamassassin -r < email.txt'
[2762] warn: reporter: SpamCop message older than 2 days, not reporting
1 message(s) examined.

sfa:~# ls -l /var/lib/amavis/.spamassassin/
total 40
-rwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-08-19 20:51 auto-whitelist
-rw-rw-rw- 1 amavis amavis 12 2006-09-03 10:52 bayes.mutex
-rw------- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-09-03 10:51 bayes_seen
-rw------- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-09-03 10:51 bayes_toks
-rwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis 1487 2006-08-19 20:51 user_prefs

sfa:~# su amavis -c 'sa-learn --spam < email.txt'
Learned tokens from 1 message(s) (1 message(s) examined)

sfa:~# ls -l /var/lib/amavis/.spamassassin/
total 52
-rwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-08-19 20:51 auto-whitelist
-rw-rw-rw- 1 amavis amavis 15 2006-09-03 10:53 bayes.mutex
-rw------- 1 amavis amavis 12288 2006-09-03 10:53 bayes_seen
-rw------- 1 amavis amavis 24576 2006-09-03 10:53 bayes_toks
-rwxr-x--- 1 amavis amavis 1487 2006-08-19 20:51 user_prefs

So, it appears to me no learning takes place when using
spamassassin -r, but the bayes files are accessed.

Gary V


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