Qmail Without DNS?-from lifewithqmail

HISTORY:
So I have use lifewithqmail to get qmail installed and running on Fedora
Core 5 (which complexity I am liking less every day). I managed to dig
through the web to find out about replacing smtp with 25 in my
qmail-smtpd file as well...(side note, anyone recommend a good home
server distribution?)


ISSUE:
So my issue is qmail is not accepting smtp connections sort of. it is
because i can telnet into it, though I get kicked out. I believe my
problem is that I do NOT have a DNS and I know qmail only uses DNS for
hostname lookup. I only desire to accept connections on localhost. How
do I configure qmail to accept connections from localhost when my
computer is named 'erasmus.' Well 'hostname' returns "erasmus".

I tried to follow the directions from 'lifewithqmail' where it was said

"Note: On a small local LAN you might want to use a pseudo domain such
as ".local". E.g., if your hostname is "mash", you could do
../config-fast mash.local. If you do this, be sure to configure qmail to
use a valid Internet domain name in return addresses. (See section 3,
Configuration.)"

But I am lost. My computer is known as erasmus so I tried

../config-fast erasmus.localdomain

but it didnt work. Is D. Sill giving me instructions here on how to
deal with not having a DNS server, or how to deal with having a DNS
server but a computer with a short name such as mash.local as opposed to
mash.local.com???



--
Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

dnoyeB wrote:
>
> ISSUE:
> So my issue is qmail is not accepting smtp connections sort of. it is
> because i can telnet into it, though I get kicked out. I believe my
> problem is that I do NOT have a DNS and I know qmail only uses DNS for
> hostname lookup. I only desire to accept connections on localhost. How
> do I configure qmail to accept connections from localhost when my
> computer is named 'erasmus.' Well 'hostname' returns "erasmus".
If you followed LWQ, you would have see:
2.8.2.3. SMTP Access Control
Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP:

echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp
qmailctl cdb
You may want to add 127.0.0.1 and maybe the IP address too.
>
> I tried to follow the directions from 'lifewithqmail' where it was said
>
> ./config-fast erasmus.localdomain
>
You must use erasmus.local the exact word "local" must appear after the
dot.

> but it didnt work.
>
Having servername.local in the configuration files will allow you to
use a name for your server that is not in DNS. Of course, you MUST form
the sender envelop so the mail goes out as a valid domain and knows how
to bounce back to you. Just follow LWQ and things will work.
Vahid.

Vahid Moghaddasi wrote:
> dnoyeB wrote:
>
>>ISSUE:
>>So my issue is qmail is not accepting smtp connections sort of. it is
>>because i can telnet into it, though I get kicked out. I believe my
>>problem is that I do NOT have a DNS and I know qmail only uses DNS for
>>hostname lookup. I only desire to accept connections on localhost. How
>>do I configure qmail to accept connections from localhost when my
>>computer is named 'erasmus.' Well 'hostname' returns "erasmus".
>
> If you followed LWQ, you would have see:
> 2.8.2.3. SMTP Access Control
> Allow the local host to inject mail via SMTP:
>
> echo '127.:allow,RELAYCLIENT=""' >>/etc/tcp.smtp
> qmailctl cdb
> You may want to add 127.0.0.1 and maybe the IP address too.
>

yes I did this, but I didnt use the IP address, just the 127 one.


>>I tried to follow the directions from 'lifewithqmail' where it was said
>>
>>./config-fast erasmus.localdomain
>>
>
> You must use erasmus.local the exact word "local" must appear after the
> dot.
>
>

Yea, thats where I screwed up. It wasn't clear that 'local' is a
special word, but I suspected it was when I did a 'ps' and saw some of
the other processes already using erasmus.local, but it was too late then.



>>but it didnt work.
>>
>
> Having servername.local in the configuration files will allow you to
> use a name for your server that is not in DNS. Of course, you MUST form
> the sender envelop so the mail goes out as a valid domain and knows how
> to bounce back to you. Just follow LWQ and things will work.
> Vahid.
>

I tried to clean it up, but I think the tcp piece still has a mixed name
as I can see it in the 'ps' dump. I'll just uninstall and reinstall.


--
Thank you,



"Then said I, Wisdom [is] better than strength: nevertheless the poor
man's wisdom [is] despised, and his words are not heard." Ecclesiastes 9:16

dnoyeB <Fake@ThisOneIsFake.com> writes:

>>>I tried to follow the directions from 'lifewithqmail' where it was said
>>>
>>>./config-fast erasmus.localdomain
>>>
>> You must use erasmus.local the exact word "local" must appear after
>> the
>> dot.
>>
>
> Yea, thats where I screwed up. It wasn't clear that 'local' is a
> special word, but I suspected it was when I did a 'ps' and saw some of
> the other processes already using erasmus.local, but it was too late
> then.

There's nothing magic about "local". The keys are to use config-fast
instead of config, and to use local "domain" name.

>> Having servername.local in the configuration files will allow you to
>> use a name for your server that is not in DNS. Of course, you MUST form
>> the sender envelop so the mail goes out as a valid domain and knows how
>> to bounce back to you. Just follow LWQ and things will work. Vahid.
>
> I tried to clean it up, but I think the tcp piece still has a mixed
> name as I can see it in the 'ps' dump. I'll just uninstall and
> reinstall.

You're probably just seeing "localdomain" being truncated to "local"
by ps.

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