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Old 04-20-2006
Vahid moghaddasi
 
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Default Capturing bounced messages

Hi,
We send several hundred e-mails to costumers with about a dozen
different "From:" field. I was wondering if there is a way to capture
bounced and rejected messages in a server that is not on the right side
of the @ sign in the From: filed? For example, I send mail to
joe@example.com and Joe will see the mail came from
Alerts@FinanceExample.com but if Joe's mail box if full and/or Joe's
account does not exist, I don't want the mail bounce to
Alerts@FinanceExample.com, instead I want it to go where I want it to
go.
Thanks,
Vahid.

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Old 04-21-2006
Dave Sill
 
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"Vahid moghaddasi" <vahid.moghaddasi@gmail.com> writes:

> We send several hundred e-mails to costumers with about a dozen
> different "From:" field. I was wondering if there is a way to capture
> bounced and rejected messages in a server that is not on the right side
> of the @ sign in the From: filed? For example, I send mail to
> joe@example.com and Joe will see the mail came from
> Alerts@FinanceExample.com but if Joe's mail box if full and/or Joe's
> account does not exist, I don't want the mail bounce to
> Alerts@FinanceExample.com, instead I want it to go where I want it to
> go.


Sure, no problem. What users usually see is the From/To header fields,
but the real from/to information is specified on the envelope, the
SMTP "MAIL FROM" and "RCPT TO" commands. The difference between the
message header and envelope is how mailing lists (which redirect
bounces to the list owner instead of the sender) and blind carbon
copies (in which the blind recipient doesn't appear in the header)
work.

qmail-inject lets you specify the envelope "From" on the command
line with the -f option.

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Old 04-22-2006
Vahid Moghaddasi
 
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Dave Sill wrote:
> "Vahid moghaddasi" <vahid.moghaddasi@gmail.com> writes:
>
> qmail-inject lets you specify the envelope "From" on the command
> line with the -f option.
>

Good to see you back Dave,
Thanks for the info, I guess fiddling with control/*bounce* files will
produce the same affect.
I am not sure if there is a dead. letter file as there is in sendmail
world.
Thanks,

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Old 04-24-2006
Dave Sill
 
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"Vahid Moghaddasi" <moghaddasi@gmail.com> writes:

> Dave Sill wrote:
>> "Vahid moghaddasi" <vahid.moghaddasi@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> qmail-inject lets you specify the envelope "From" on the command
>> line with the -f option.
>>

> Good to see you back Dave,


Thanks.

> Thanks for the info, I guess fiddling with control/*bounce* files will
> produce the same affect.


Not really. If the initial delivery attempt fails hard, the message
will bounce before you can tweak the bounce file. And, of course,
diddling queue files is extremely dangerous.

> I am not sure if there is a dead. letter file as there is in sendmail
> world.


I don't remember what dead letter files do in Sendmail.

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